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Hello, and thank you for tuning in to a Sharp
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Hi am Angela Sharp your host. I'll arm to your
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discussions with industry experts will give you the steps, tools
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and information to be successful in business and to prepare
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you to be your best self. Hello, and welcome to
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a Sharp Outlook. I'm so excited that you're joining us today.
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You are going to learn so much about how to
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get prepared and get the brain fitness for success and
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for life. And I'm just glad you tuned in and
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so we're talking today about brain fitness. The advantage is
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that you will have in learning and life if you
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understand the skills that you should have so that you
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are able to do the critical thinking. What if student
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success starts long before greed and test scores. In this episode,
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my guests Dustin Dean and Jeff Apps of nine max
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Ed joins us to talk about brain fitness, the foundation
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behind focus, confidence, resilience, emotional regulation, and discipline and long
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term success. We explore why these skills matters and so
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much in education, and how they shape learning and behavior
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and what parents and teachers and students can do to
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strength of that. We'll learn what brain fitness is and
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what it actually means, and how to apply it, why
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it matters, how students can strengthen critical mental skills, and
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that is a major issue right now. Critical thinking is
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very very missing right now. What parents and educators can
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do right now to change the trajectory of where our
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students are going, and how my max ed is approaching
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student development differently. In this episode, we'll talk about what
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brain fitness really means, why it matters, and my guests
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today are Dustin and Jeff, and I want to welcome
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you to the show right now so we can get
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into this conversation.
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Hi, good and so great to be back. It's always
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a pleasure.
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Yeah, it's always great to have you because you always
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have these just phenomenal projects that you're working on and
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things that are available for people so that they can
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make changes in their lives and be able to become
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all that they imagine and all that they dreamed and
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actually find out what their purpose for breathing is. And
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so it's really important. And I'm always excited when you're
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here because you you well, helps me learn a lot,
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and then it just expands the minds of everyone that's
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listening today. So I'm glad you're here on the show,
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and i want to give you this moment to tell
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us a little about your background and what has led
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you to this work.
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Do you want to fire first, Jeff, or do you
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want me to go?
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You go for a dustin, I'll follow you.
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Okay, all right, Well, so you know what I've spent
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over twenty six years in healthcare. The majority of it
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has been in psychiatry, many of those in child and
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adolescent psychiatry, and then about five years ago I went
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back and became a psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner, which
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means I can prescribe and I can do psychotherapy and
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and you know, pretty much the similar to what a
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psychiatrist would do, but I went the nursing route.
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Instead.
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And then also I'm professor at Mental Wealth, well professor
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of Mental Health at Winona State University, Sat Kate University.
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So a lot of experience in mental health. But what
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I'm really excited about now is, you know, I met
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Jeff OPSI and he has like just an extensive it
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has extensive experience in education, and it's always been something
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I'm passionate about because I really feel that if we
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can if we can educate people, the therapy practices and
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that sort of thing that I do will be probably
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less intensive and we can come in early with developing
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the skills to thrive rather than just survive, and train
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the brain through our Brain Fitness Academy to get those
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skills of resilience and accountability and just you know, focusing
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processing life through their power and potential rather than their
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pain and their past. And Jeff and I have developed
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a curriculum that's based on tapping your inner superhero.
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We'd like to call ourselves the Marvel of mental wellness.
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And so that's kind of where I come from and
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my experience and I, you know, we just co authored
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I mean, he did the majority of it, but we
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co authored our first book and I'll just I'll let
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Jeff introduce himself and then tell a little more.
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Sure, Yeah, Jeff APSI. I've been an educator for oh
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my gosh, twenty seven years now, and I started out
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as a high school business and marketing teacher Decca advisor.
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I've been for the majority of my career a football coach,
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a track and field coach, and a soccer coach. My
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journey has been in the classroom for my first seven
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or eight years. Then I became a high school principal,
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and then shortly into the principal ship, I was approached
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by the school board of the district I was working
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in and they strongly encouraged me to apply for their
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superintendent role. And then I served in the role of
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a public school superintendent for thirteen years and a lot
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of highs, lots of lows, and seeing just a number
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of different things throughout my career. And after thirteen years,
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I stepped away from it and it was time to
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move on to different adventures. I'm still associated with education,
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still in the admin role, but in my current role,
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I also get a chance to get in the classroom
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and get back into coaching and get back to doing
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the things that I've really loved throughout my career, gotten
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to know Dustin over the past few years. We discovered
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that we're both mutual nerds love sci fi, love fantasy,
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love adventure, strong passion for superheroes, the Marvel universe, the
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DC universe, and obviously you get into some of the
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other realms like Star Wars, and we've had a lot
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of just deep conversations on different things at we could do.
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Dustin introduced me to the work of Russ Harris and
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practical act strategies, and then that led into some bigger
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conversations of how Dustin had leveraged some of his work,
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some of his curriculum, and then we got into conversations about, hey,
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I've got a very strong background and curriculum design, and
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we have taken some of that early work that Dustin
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had used, you know, in therapy sessions in in an
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effort to engage his clients, his patients to have breakthroughs,
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and we formed it. We basically revamped it, reformed it
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into what we call the Smart Strength Curriculum, and as
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Dustin mentioned, we're kind of on the verge of it.
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Our first our first attempt, our first course is published
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it's live. We feel it's it's great for anyone of
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all ages, anybody who's got an interest in One of
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things that we've tried to do is turn it into
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something more than just your you know, from the world
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of education. There's been into so many different professional development
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presentations and setting where it feels to be like a
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camp PowerPoint or something else. And we've had conversations about
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let's make this engaging and not just engaging, but entertaining.
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So we've had a lot of fun curating a universe
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of characters and then tying in their adventures by tapping
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into research based practices on brain fitness and basically, you know,
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inspired by the work of experts, taking those strategies and
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building them into a curriculum that our characters are basically
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teaching the learners. So yeah, so I'm sorry I've got
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a little long winded there, but.
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Yeah, wonderful. Yeah, it's wonderful. And because I'm the curious kind,
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I had to go check it out. I love I
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love the marvel world there, and they're being able to
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approach people, you know, not only stimulate the mind, but
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the visual which helps to stimulate the mind even more. Uh,
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and it's a world where a lot of the younger generation,
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you know, lives, and so they're going to they understand
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the superheroes, they understand the the attacks of the intruders
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out there and things like that, and so they they
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can apply that. They can probably apply it better than
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somebody you're reading some book to them. You know, it's
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just it's just how their mind is now wired because
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of what the stimulation they've all become, you know, exposed to,
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and with.
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The approach, I mean, basically, what we've done is that
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all of those challenges that people deal with, from anxiety
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to stress to self doubt, we've personified them and they're
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actually the the the villain roster that we've treated with
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in this adventure.
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So yeah, yeah, and and and like I said, to
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reach the younger generation, I mean, I get excited by
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this stuff because I'm a sci fi and not myself,
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but you know, they are going to really be able to,
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uh look at that, get the message from it, and
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actually start applying it to their lives. And seeing what
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I'm seeing out there, you know, in social media and
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on the news and different things, and what's happening with
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our younger generation, I am just excited to introduce this
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to those that are watching and listening and going to
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share this because it is going to it's a difference
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between night and day. It's going to help your your student,
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you're you know, grandchild, your sons and daughters become more
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equipped to actually be able to deal with life and
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deal with setbacks. Most people don't know how to deal
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with setbacks. It used to be in sports, they learned
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in the competition someone was going to win and someone
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was going to lose. But I guess the losing was
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so overwhelming. Now everybody gets to win, and so I
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think it's the wrong. I mean, I'm not wanting kids
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to get hurt, but I want them to understand there's
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a message there that when you don't get that award,
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then there's a little more that you need to apply
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to yourself. There's a little more that you may want
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to do. There's a little more studying you may want
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to do. There's a little more practicing you may want
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to do. There's a little more. But to cry is
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not the answer, you know, to get to practicism.
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I think the one thing that excites me too is
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even at a corporate level and an institution level. You
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know you have Jeff touched on it earlier, but you know,
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imposter syndrome, like imposter syndrome has become something. And what
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we really found and what I've found over the years,
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and what we've really been trying to stress in the
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Smart Strength curriculum is one not being overly entitled and
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thinking everything should just land in your lap, but two
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not doubting yourself once you get there. There's this combination
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and I think in a lot of other things have
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caused this that your value comes externally instead of internally.
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is that these skills training your brain to see the
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amazingness in you and not listen to the deceiver or
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the accuser or any of those villains we've created that
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are in everybody's head right. And I think it's furthermore
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with a lot of generations that are obtaining their value
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from social media likes and and shares and like all
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this stuff, they are you know, when that's going good,
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they think, okay, I should be able to do anything
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without any effort. And when it's going bad or those
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the accuser comes in their brain, they think I'm not
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good enough. To handle this and really us using the
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act approach, which is acceptance and commitment therapy. But this
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is obviously education, but seeing that the value is in you.
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The value is resilience.
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The value is training your brain to not operate from
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the fight or flight perspective, but from the perspective of
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locus of control, and that I do have a lot.
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Of good things about me. Instead of being all good, I.
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Should be able to access every everything, and I should
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be able to be president, or I suck and I
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can't do anything. When you train your brain right, everything
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is accessible and you have the ability to accomplish it anything.
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But that training is what gets you there, not just
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a natural way of external validation.
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Right. I remember when I got my first job, and
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my first job was with this major Fortune ten corporation,
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and I felt so small there. I felt because I
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hadn't been exposed to a lot of the things, and
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I thought, yeah, I had the education, but I'm in
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an environment that's not familiar. When I went home and
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told my mother, I said, I don't know that I
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can do this. I don't know if I can compete.
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I don't know who said stop it. All of us
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put our pants on the same way. All of us
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eat food the same way, and then she went on
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about all the human things that are similar. She said,
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the only difference between you and them is opportunity. So
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you keep striving, you keep looking, you keep working to
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find out what it is that helps open that door
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and start making opportunities. And now you will be where
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they are and won't be sitting here crying talking about
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you're not good enough. You are good enough because you're