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Sept. 28, 2026

From Crisis to Care: Support at AAC

From Crisis to Care: Support at AAC

Are you struggling or you know someone who is? You want to get help, but not sure where to go in your community, and you don't want anyone to know you have a problem. Only 10% of addicts seek treatment. The other 90% of addicts are stuck, feeling as if there are no options. AAC American Addiction Centers is the leading provider for addiction treatment nationwide and specializes in evidence-based treatment and mental healthcare services. People listening can get help at ACC, covered by insurance

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Hello, and thank you for tuning in to A Sharp

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Outlook on K4HD Radio and Talk4TV. I am Angela Sharp,

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your host. Our armchair discussions with industry experts will give

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you the steps, tools, and information to be successful in

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business and to prepare you to be your best self.

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Hello, I'm Angela Sharp, and welcome to A Sharp Outlook. Today,

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we're going to talk about from crisis to care, where

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you can get support for addiction at American Addiction Centers.

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And we have a wonderful guest that will be able

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to discuss this. But, you know, are you struggling? Or

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you know someone who is? You want to get help,

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but there are no places to go in your community.

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And you don't want anyone to know you have a problem.

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Did you know that only 10% of people that are

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suffering from addiction seek treatment? 10%. And the other 90%

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of those suffering from addiction are stuck, feeling as if

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there are no options. Well, AAC, the American Addiction Center,

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is the leading provider for addiction treatment nationwide. and specializes

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in evidence-based treatment and mental health care services. People listening

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to this episode are likely to stay to high stress.

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They need to hear that there is a clear human-centered

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process to get help. AAC places the focus on the

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personalization of care. They emphasize on how their treatment isn't

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a factory process, but a tailored plan that addresses individual history,

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mental health, generational trauma, physical safety, and specific service offerings

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like specific therapies, amenities, or programs that meets the residents

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at their point of need. And a wonderful thing is

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AAC accepts insurance coverage, which provides a healthy, supportive intervention

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for a loved one. Well, today I have Heather Usura,

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who is a part of AAC organization, and I'd like

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to invite her to join us right now.

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Hello.

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Hello. Good to see you. And I'm really glad to

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have you here to talk about this. Just very important

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topic because as you know, we see on the news

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and even go to our community events, we know that

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addiction is a problem, not just in this nation, but

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around the world. And so we need to let them

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know that we care and there's help. And so tell

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us about yourself, Heather, and how did you get addicted?

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into working with this organization?

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Well, first of all, thank you for having me. I

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really am excited to share this information with everybody. So

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I got into this because I've had a lot of

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friends struggling with addiction. And this job just gives you

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that amazing relief that we can get people help. And

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I just want to help people.

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I'm on this.

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Earth to help people.

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Yes. Yes, absolutely. If all of us had this attitude,

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we would have a lot more people that are being

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helped instead of having an attitude that people are just

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something that you can use and monetize from. Exactly. But

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if you were like, love thy neighbor as yourself, like

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they all say they believe, We would have a different society.

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We would have a different world if people cared, had

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that community love for one another. So when someone calls

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AAC Helpline for the first time, what actually happens? I mean,

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walk us through the intake process so a listener knows

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exactly what to expect and how do you help families

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navigate the financial crisis. or insurance side of things to

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remove the stress of getting their loved one admitted?

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Absolutely. A lot of the times they'll contact me. They're very,

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you know, apprehensive. And so I try to be empathetic because,

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you know, addiction is real and it is different for

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every single person. I listen to their story and I

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ask them, you know, may I ask you what you're

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struggling with? And then we go from there and I'm like,

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do you want the help today? And you know, most

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of them say, yes, I'm calling because I want the help.

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And so I will get their name, date of birth

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and insurance information. And we'll send that into admissions team.

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And they actually, the admissions team will call them and

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we do this within the We don't wait. And so

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the admissions team will run the insurance to make sure

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the insurance works for our company. And then they call

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them for an intake screening. They will ask them a

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series of questions to see what kind of level of

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care that they need. Because some need inpatient, some need outpatient.

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need transportation. We can actually help them with transportation to

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the facilities that they get approved for. So we can

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help them with train, by bus, by plane. It's amazing.

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I've seen it. They will get a plane. They'll call

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in me in the morning at 10 a.m. and they'll

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be on a plane by 6 p.m. It is so fast.

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It's amazing. It is so amazing. But once they get

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approved and once we have everything booked, they actually will

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email them a packing list. Because a lot of them

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are like, I don't know what to pack. I don't,

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you know, I've never been on a plane. I just want,

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you know, I don't know what to do. I'm like,

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I can walk you through. I've actually helped people in

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the airport. I'm like, okay, let's go here. All right,

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you're off the plane now. Once they get to the airport,

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they call for an Uber. We get them an Uber

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and we get them to the facility. It is, honestly,

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once that person is committed... We can get them in

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same day admissions. We're open 24 hours a day, seven

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days a week.

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Wow, that is wonderful. I mean, you're actually helping them.

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You're holding their hand through the whole process because that

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is probably frightening. They don't know what to expect. They

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don't know. And who knows what other kinds of places

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they've attempted that maybe didn't work out. So that is

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just wonderful that you're able to do that. You know,

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AAC is known for having a comprehensive approach, and that

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really is a great one. You know, can you break

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down the difference between your medical detox and residential treatment program?

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Oh, yeah, absolutely. So our medical detox is a 3.7,

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which means it's a monitored intensive inpatient withdrawal management program.

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It actually will get rid of any dangerous life-threatening levels

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of alcohol, drugs, opioids. So this means, this 3.7 means

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there is 24-hour a day, seven days a week nursing care.

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And then there's a daily physician that will come in

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and check on them. Because as we all know, detoxing

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can be dangerous, extremely dangerous. So these facilities do provide

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a level of structured care that stabilizes that patient before

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transitioning them into inpatient. 3.7 is one of the highest

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ASAMs out there, and we do offer that. And then

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our residential treatment program. is a live-in health care, and

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that is approximately the length of stay. It provides therapy

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as well. Length of stay is anywhere from 30 to

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90 days.

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Washington that I met when I first moved here, we

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started going to a treatment center called Elma. It's in Elma, Washington.

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And that is a residential treatment center. But it's very,

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very long term. But a lot of those residents that

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are there, they were court ordered to be in that facility.

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But we used to go and visit and counsel them

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like every other Saturday. Okay. And we would have, you know,

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other guests that would go with us and we would

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sing songs. We would all tell our stories and, you know,

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letting them know you're not the only one that has

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been through something. Now it's a matter of, okay, can

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you take responsibility now? Can you take responsibility of how

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you made this step? And what are you going to do?

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about this new step that you are in right now?

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And I'll tell you, that was one of the most

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rewarding things. We did that for 13 years. And that

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was the most rewarding thing I think I can say

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besides being a foster mother. that I can say I've

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ever done to be there and watch them change their

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lives and, you know, realize that they are valuable. They

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are someone, they are a person that is needed in society.

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And just taking that step was like the best thing

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that could happen. In fact, I would be out you know,

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walking to lunch or something like that. And one of

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the residents that was out now would say, Angela, Angela, Angela. Well,

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I've seen so many of them and wouldn't actually remember

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their name, but they're like, I'm out and I'm registered

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in community college. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this

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is so wonderful. This is, she said, thank you so

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much for taking your time to help because it really

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made a difference in my life. And this is what

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is important to our audience. You know someone. Help them.

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Help them make the right decision. Many people struggle with

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co-occurring disorders. How does AAC integrate psychiatric care with addiction

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treatment to ensure the whole person is being healed?

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Yeah, so we actually integrate psychiatric care through dual diagnosis approach.

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The clients are assessed for both the substance use and

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for mental health conditions. So the mental health conditions can

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be anxiety, depression, PTSD. There's others as well. So we

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have treatment plans. We use comprehensive evaluation with medical and

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psychiatric assessment. And at intake, that's where they get some

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of those questions at intake are to see where they're

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at in their mental health side of it as well.

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We also use integrated therapy, which is a coordinated care,

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whereas psychiatric therapists and addiction specialists, they all work together

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to get this person sober. And we also use medication management.

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which is also known as MAT, and the psychiatrists, they

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actually prescribe the clients that, and they monitor those medications.

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And those medications can help with the mental health side

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and with the withdrawals. Then we have therapeutic programs such

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as CBT, and there's more as well.

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and EMDR, eye movement, desensitization, group therapy, or other holistic approaches.

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people that are coming in?

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So it's like a psychotherapy, and they use principles from

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cognitive psychology and behavioral. And then we use DBT, so

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that's dialectical behavioral therapy. That actually helps with personality disorders.

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So that actually treats PTSD, which it's just amazing what

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these different, you know, therapy programs can do. And then

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we also do trauma-informed therapy. So it recognizes that there's trauma,

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usually trauma, involved in addiction. Most, most clients and slash

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patients will have some kind of trauma. And then we

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do a holistic wellness activities, which is, this is the

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fun side of it. They do equine therapy with the horses, yoga,

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art therapy, there's acupuncture, there's a nutritional therapy, and this

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is just to support the recovery side of it. So,

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you know, When they get out, they can actually, you know,

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do the nutritional side to stay healthy.

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In fact, like you were mentioning, recovery doesn't end at

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the discharge. You know, what does AAC aftercare or alumni

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program look like? And, you know, why is it important

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to have that relationship, you know, kind of long term relationship?

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for this long-term sobriety to have that interaction with others.

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Yeah, absolutely. Continuum care is so important to sobriety. If

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we don't have that aftercare or that continuum care, you know,

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they'll go right back to their addiction. So during this stage,

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you know, they don't need that level of care that

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they needed and inpatient. So they're, you know, they need

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to be able to function in the quote unquote real world.

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So we do have a discharge plan. So there's a

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primary therapist that's involved and they do get a case

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manager that works with the client from day one. They

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actually will customize a discharge plan to maintain sobriety. And

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with this discharge plan, you know, a lot of them

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are like, well, I want to go back to work.

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I want to live in sober living. I want to

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do outpatient. I want private therapy. Well, this case manager,

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including in myself, they'll reach out to me as well.

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And I'll be like, hey, here's some places you can

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go to for outpatient. I work with the case managers,

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with all of them, to help them figure out, OK,

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which place would be best for the client. But I

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give them three to four places to reach out to.

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What's great is AAC actually has an app. And this

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app is a peer support community. There's like virtual events

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that they have on this app. There's in-person. There's library.

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There's resources if they need help. There's a place where

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you can do a referral. So if you um, come

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out and you're sober and you have a friend or

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a loved one, you can actually refer them through this app.

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And then they actually have a program called AAC Thrive.

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They're virtual meetings and anybody that is an alumni from

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month and it's peer run. Um, so they do have

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people bring in their real life insights, uh, motivational lessons

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and yeah it just helps them stay strong in recovery.

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encourage and to make sure the sobriety stays you know

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that way and and i really like the fact that

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you are offering or services are available for those suffering

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from ptsd um you know i'm from the generation that

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you know a lot of Men and women went to

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the military and went to war and things like that,

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and they have come back with PTSD. And they have

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those triggers and they follow off the wagon and, you know,

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try to medicate themselves with all of these other devices

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instead of having that group that they can connect with.

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they'll say come on man you can make it hey

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girl you got this you got this you got this

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you can do it come on let's go let's go

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let's go you know because they understand what they're going

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through and so they're giving them the encouragement to hold

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on to keep you know standing for their commitment that

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they made that is really important like i said when

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i said in the um a lot of people don't

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want anyone to know that they're getting this help. So

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having this community that they can talk to, boy, that

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is really cool because they're certainly not going to go

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to work and talk about this at the coffee machine.

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So they definitely need, you know, a group of people

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who have walked that walk and can tell them exactly

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what they need to be doing right now. so that

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they don't fall completely off the wagon and go back

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into those behaviors again, but can help them get through

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that moment of crisis that they're having. That's really important

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to be there for that. I know that based on

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what you were saying, AAC tailors the treatment plan for

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individuals who, But what do you say to a person

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who is afraid that treatment will be a clinical or

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cold experience? What is the culture like in the facilities?

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Because most are going to go to think that they're

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in a hospital or something instead of, you know, a

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community where you're interacting and things like that. So what

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can you say to them?

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That's what, you know, it's funny you say that because

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that's what everyone says. They're like, I don't want to

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go to a hospital. I'm like, it is definitely not

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a hospital.

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It's like a resort, honestly.

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It's really nice. It's very clean. It's peaceful. It's calm.

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The energy is like a sense of belonging because you are,

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you know, working, you know, you have group therapy with

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your peers there. So a lot of them understand addiction,

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you know, and that's before and after treatment, you know,

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there's a gym at all of them. There's, you know, there's,

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you can go outside, enjoy the, you know, the weather,

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you know, it's just, it's really nice. Some of them

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have pools, some of them have hot tubs, some of

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them you can go fishing at. Like, like I said,

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there was the equine therapy. There's, you know, go see

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the horses. Some of them, you go to the beach

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once a week. So it's, I mean, it's, they're honestly,

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they're beautiful. Like they smell good.

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That's important. And they know what we're saying too. Yeah,

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for sure. Yeah, but, you know, I was looking at

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some flyers from a couple of locations and I was

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looking at, you know, the one in Florida. I mean,

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you've got, you know, the beach there. You've got different,

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you know, activities that they have. Like you said, there's

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a lot of activities that they have. And then, you know,

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the one in Las Vegas, you have all that beautiful

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scenery and, you know, just the... the atmosphere is a

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lot different in Las Vegas. It's just a, what I

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want to say, an aura that is there that is

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great for healing. So it's just really, yeah, really, really nice.

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How many, how many facilities altogether is a part of AAC?

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So we have eight across America. So yeah, it's, And

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they're all over the country from West Coast to East Coast.

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So it's great.

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Good. Good. Absolutely. So if a family member is trying

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to intervene, what resources does AAC offer to help them

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through the process of getting their loved ones some help?

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They just call and you help them? help them get

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through that process?

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I have worked with so many families. I'm telling you,

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if you work with the families, they'll get their loved

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one in. They'll help me to get the loved one in. I, I, yeah, I, uh,

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we actually have family therapy. We promote families being involved

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because it does help with, uh, the healing process and

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the sobriety process. But we have family therapy to improve

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the communication, and they address the relational.

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Issues as well.

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Because a lot of times, you know, the person that

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is addicted has, you know, went away, has kind of

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removed themselves from the family.

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And we need to.

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Bring that back together. So they do, we encourage families

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to be involved. And I tell families all the time,

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you know, daughters, you know, aunties, uncles, moms, dads, I'm like, please,

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please be involved. You know, I'll be here if you

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have any questions. And, you know, I've reached, I've had

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a dad reach out and tell me, thank you so

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much for getting my son sober. This is the first

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time he's ever been sober. And that just is amazing.

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I was like, it wasn't me. It was him. He's

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the one that.

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Did all the work. I just, Yes, absolutely. Yeah. You know, I,

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I can, I can sometimes understand maybe the fear that

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they have, because I know when I was working with

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the treatment center, the, the residents, they were feeling a

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sense of shame and they, like you said, they have

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left the family. They haven't been communicating with them. You know, they, um,

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They feel like they're an outcast now, all of these things.

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And I don't know, I'm not a therapist or anything.

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I'm just a grandma. So I said what a grandma

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would normally say. You need to get in touch with

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your family. You need to let them know that you

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were suffering from an illness and to please forgive you

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for whatever that you have done that caused this. the

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family not to be together. Just say, I'm sorry. It's

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not that difficult. And I know you're sorry. So swallow

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that pride and call them up and say, I was wrong.

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I was sick. I was doing these things. And I

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know it's something that you had told me not to do,

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but I did it anyway. And I am sorry. Forgive me.

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I'm getting help now. That didn't take too many words

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and I'm a big talker. So maybe you can even

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cut them down some more. Hey, I'm sorry, man. You done.

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Forgive me.

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It's over. And then you can just keep on going

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on your journey of getting well and getting healthy and

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getting strong and, and, Having dreams and working for purpose

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and making a difference. Because one thing about it, you

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have a story that you can tell others to save

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their lives. You are a walking, talking story. And nothing

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is more convincing than someone who has walked the walk,

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talked the talk, and now they've made the change and

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can tell you exactly what you need to do. That

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is the best, you know, help you can get. So

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as someone who connects people to help daily, what is

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the most common misconception people make? have when they first

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call you?

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A lot of them don't realize how nice I am.

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You know, they think I'm going to be just mean. Honestly,

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80% of people are like, you're the nicest person I

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have talked to. I was like, really? And they're like, no, seriously,

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you actually listen to me. You know, you understand where

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I'm coming from. And I just, I don't get it.

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We're all people, so why not just give them five

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minutes and let's hear what's going on. Let's see if

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we can move forward and get this sobriety going. And

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I always tell people, you can reach out to me

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while you're in treatment. If you want to text or call,

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you're more than welcome. I'm here.

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Yeah.

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You deserve this. I always tell them that. I always

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tell everyone, you deserve to be sober.

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Yes.

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Nobody, you know, and I, yeah, I just, that's, and

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they also, like I said before, they think it's a hospital.

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I was like, oh, no.

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No, it's a retreat.

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It's a resort. Like, my account's always like, man, it

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sounds nice. And I show them pictures and They're like, wow.

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I'm like, no, it's very relaxing. It's supposed to be

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more like a home-like setting. You know, that's where sobriety,

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you know, if you feel comfortable, you're going to want

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to get sober.

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Right. Absolutely. And that's wonderful that it's, I mean, there's

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been a lot of thought placed into these facilities. you know,

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to make them be a place where you feel like

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a person and you feel like someone cares and you

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want to be successful at this just because of all

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of the love that is actually being poured out on

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these individuals after they've gone through so much hurt and

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so much pain. And like you said, even so much trauma,

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and then they haven't forgiven themselves. And so they don't

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feel anyone else will forgive them. And so just pouring

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out that love on them like that, That is just

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so special. I mean, I'm saying thank you because, like

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I said, I've worked at the treatment centers. I also

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used to feed the homeless on Friday nights in between

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the Friday nights that I wasn't doing something else. And

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there were so many people that would come out there,

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and I encouraged others that had things that they wanted

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to donate and things. And we would have like 300,

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400 people out there down in Tacoma, on the street

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or across from the bus station. We had musicians there

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playing music and singing. We had food there. Then we

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had them start bringing in clothes and bags of, you know,

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toothpaste and toothbrushes and just little, you know, care bags

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that we would give out to them. And that's why

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I'm happy that you're working with the ones with PTSD

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because there were a lot of veterans that were down

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there that were homeless that were on the streets and

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had gone into addiction because they were trying to numb

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the pain of what they were already feeling and then

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now they were caught and so I totally understand and

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all we did was just show them love and let

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them know that they, we care about you. We want

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the best for you. We don't want you hungry. We

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don't want you in danger and different things like that.

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And I mean, they would even say, hey, who can

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I call for this? So I would have like a

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whole booklet full of numbers because I know, I didn't know,

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but somebody would gave me this information. I said, here,

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call this number here. Well, you know, I even had,

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you know, different, motels and things that would let them

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come stay. And so I would give them phone numbers

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so they'd have a place to stay or place to

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eat or something like that, or where they could get

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free bus passes and things. But just being able to

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get someone to help them become themselves again is just powerful,

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powerful information. When a family member calls on behalf of

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a loved one, what are three things that they probably

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would need to have to make the process smoother? If

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they had those three things, they would be prepared to

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start making plans right there at that second.

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Yeah, so if a family member calls me and wants

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help for their loved one, I ask them for that

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person's name. their phone number, a working phone number I

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can call them at, if they have their date of

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birth and actually their insurance information as well. And so

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then I can at least be one step ahead. And

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if that person is ready to go, we can get

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all that stuff sent in and we'll get your insurance

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verified right away. Because like I said, it's a spur

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of the moment. And if we don't go fast, we'll

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lose them. So yeah, it's... Very important. And like, yeah,

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if they can have all that and then I can

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call the client, we can we can speed up that process.

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Well, it's really great that you have you have the

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tools to be able to fly them in or bring

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them in or get Uber and get them in or,

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you know, get them to transfer because, you know, if

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you're out there and you're addicted. You generally may be

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on the street, but if not, you certainly probably are

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not holding down a job. And so you don't have transportation.

467
00:32:56.130 --> 00:33:02.250
You may not have even, you know, five days change

468
00:33:02.289 --> 00:33:07.230
of clothing or whatever. So just being there and having

469
00:33:07.269 --> 00:33:10.890
those needs and encouraging them that why don't you just

470
00:33:10.930 --> 00:33:14.940
come on in and we can handle everything else. You

471
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.319
don't need to worry about anything. We got you covered.

472
00:33:18.660 --> 00:33:22.519
And go ahead and take care of everything you're going

473
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:29.079
to need to make this decision successful. I mean, that's really,

474
00:33:29.259 --> 00:33:32.000
really good. That's even better than a hospital.

475
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:35.019
Yes.

476
00:33:35.609 --> 00:33:37.609
You don't get that when you're going to the hospital.

477
00:33:38.009 --> 00:33:41.089
If you don't get the ambulance, you're not getting there. Exactly.

478
00:33:45.670 --> 00:33:50.930
For the person listening right now who thinks they are

479
00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:56.589
too far gone or that the situation is too complicated,

480
00:33:58.130 --> 00:33:59.089
what would you say to them?

481
00:34:01.019 --> 00:34:06.119
It's never too far gone. I've worked with people that

482
00:34:06.259 --> 00:34:09.280
they're like, nope, I don't have any, you know, life

483
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.219
to live. I'm like, you're literally 50. You have a

484
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.829
long time. Like, let's get you sober let's get you

485
00:34:17.889 --> 00:34:19.969
in the real world don't you you know don't you

486
00:34:20.030 --> 00:34:23.429
want to be a part of society you know and

487
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.800
uh yeah there's a lot of them are fearful they're

488
00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:30.539
like oh just i don't know this makes me feel

489
00:34:30.579 --> 00:34:33.500
better i'm using because of this so you know and

490
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.880
i'm like let's just let's get you let's get you

491
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.320
in there at least try it out you know what

492
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.360
as long as you can say hey i tried and

493
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.639
it wasn't for me okay well then at least you

494
00:34:44.699 --> 00:34:48.269
tried but once you get in there and you start

495
00:34:48.309 --> 00:34:52.190
like being with the other peers and they're going through

496
00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:55.650
the same exact thing as you, as what I'm saying

497
00:34:55.710 --> 00:34:59.099
is an addiction. Yeah. Those people are going to push

498
00:34:59.139 --> 00:35:01.639
you like, Hey man, let's get you sober. No, you're

499
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.840
not leaving. You're not leaving this facility. You're staying with me.

500
00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:08.179
You know, you're making friends and you're making lifelong friends

501
00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:11.820
because friends that recover together, stay together.

502
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:20.940
Yeah, Yeah, absolutely. And I like the fact that there

503
00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:24.920
are some payment options, you know, being able to utilize,

504
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:30.340
you know, their health insurance and then even parents who

505
00:35:30.579 --> 00:35:35.960
have their children up to 26 years of age. And

506
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.039
they can go ahead and make those arrangements so that

507
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.860
they can get into the facility. Are there other payment

508
00:35:42.989 --> 00:35:44.070
options that are available?

509
00:35:44.929 --> 00:35:49.590
Yeah, so it's great. We Honestly, the insurance team slash

510
00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:52.309
admissions team will help. If you have a high deductible,

511
00:35:52.769 --> 00:35:56.539
they'll work with you. You can make payments on that deductible.

512
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:03.139
They also do cash pay for our residential treatment.

513
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.150
It's $ 825 a day.

514
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.400
Which is actually very reasonable. And then our detox, our

515
00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:14.119
medical detox, it's a minimum of five days for $ 5, 000

516
00:36:14.019 --> 00:36:18.760
and then a thousand dollars a day after that. So

517
00:36:18.820 --> 00:36:23.199
some people say five, some will pay for seven. So

518
00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:27.840
they'll pay 7,000 upfront to, you know, detox. And so, yeah,

519
00:36:28.019 --> 00:36:31.400
it's we have options for sure. And we're part of

520
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.940
the veterans. So we do accept the veterans as well.

521
00:36:35.059 --> 00:36:40.960
So Yeah, they will obviously pay for that, help with

522
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.599
that as well. So, yeah, it's great.

523
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.480
Well, one of the things I would like you to

524
00:36:47.539 --> 00:36:55.150
do is actually share your contact information so that those

525
00:36:55.190 --> 00:37:00.369
that are listening would be able to contact you so

526
00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:05.030
that they can take advantage of this opportunity to get wealth.

527
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.590
You can get well, and that's what's important. We all have,

528
00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:16.170
like I said, we've all had experiences where we've, you know,

529
00:37:16.530 --> 00:37:20.880
have had friends that have been addicted. I had uncles

530
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:27.000
that were alcoholics, and I found out years later as

531
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.460
to why, and they had a a form of PTSD,

532
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.300
but that's before they had even identified what it was.

533
00:37:34.380 --> 00:37:37.840
We're talking about coming back from World War II, and

534
00:37:38.139 --> 00:37:42.650
no one, they just drank, and we just said, oh

535
00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:48.429
my goodness, but I realized that it was to medicate

536
00:37:48.949 --> 00:37:53.480
from the bad dreams, the trauma they went through, and

537
00:37:53.500 --> 00:37:58.849
they didn't have The services, or they didn't offer the

538
00:37:58.929 --> 00:38:04.170
services to specific people, people of color were not getting

539
00:38:04.190 --> 00:38:10.989
the services that a lot of the military men and

540
00:38:11.030 --> 00:38:14.530
women were getting. And so they didn't get some of

541
00:38:14.570 --> 00:38:16.590
the help. And so this was the way that they

542
00:38:16.989 --> 00:38:22.590
would try to deaden the pain. So, but I know

543
00:38:23.130 --> 00:38:27.570
later on in life, I saw them. I saw them change.

544
00:38:27.789 --> 00:38:34.599
I saw them stop. I saw them have a fulfilling life.

545
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:40.179
And I was so proud to see that change made

546
00:38:40.570 --> 00:38:45.849
in their lives. And it was just wonderful because I know,

547
00:38:46.969 --> 00:38:50.989
you know, you were saying, oh, well, I'm too far gone. Oh, no,

548
00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:56.260
I'm not this. you know, it's over, you know, for me.

549
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.420
If you wake up and you are taking a breath,

550
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:08.010
you have something to do. You were created for a purpose.

551
00:39:09.869 --> 00:39:15.550
And the thing is, your purpose might be helping others

552
00:39:16.250 --> 00:39:20.510
that are in the same situation you're in. But you

553
00:39:20.550 --> 00:39:24.510
have to seek out what that purpose is And believe me,

554
00:39:24.670 --> 00:39:29.309
once you find purpose, you have so much joy doing that.

555
00:39:29.570 --> 00:39:33.530
You don't need anything else to make you happy because

556
00:39:33.869 --> 00:39:37.179
you are just so excited every day to get up

557
00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:42.920
and make a difference in another person's life. So I would,

558
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:48.719
I mean, I really would encourage you Anyone and everyone

559
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.280
that's going through the depression or whatever the reasons, the

560
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:57.639
trauma or whatever that you're going through, there is a

561
00:39:57.699 --> 00:40:03.250
way out of it. And getting sober is the first step.

562
00:40:03.829 --> 00:40:08.010
That way you can think about the other things that

563
00:40:08.570 --> 00:40:14.139
you were created to do. You have gifts, you have talents,

564
00:40:14.539 --> 00:40:19.570
you have abilities, and you're burying them under, you know,

565
00:40:19.590 --> 00:40:26.510
these addictions. Let them out. You'd be surprised just how

566
00:40:26.730 --> 00:40:31.309
powerful you really are and what you really, really, really

567
00:40:31.789 --> 00:40:37.980
can do. I wanted to ask you about AAC, the

568
00:40:38.019 --> 00:40:46.269
rehab program. why would someone choose AAC versus maybe another

569
00:40:46.329 --> 00:40:47.269
rehab program?

570
00:40:48.849 --> 00:40:52.269
Well, I think for us, because there's so many locations,

571
00:40:52.449 --> 00:40:56.550
so it depends on, you know, where they're located at.

572
00:40:57.329 --> 00:41:03.429
A lot of people have gone and they've actually readmitted

573
00:41:03.510 --> 00:41:07.230
just because they do like the program. They like, you know,

574
00:41:07.269 --> 00:41:09.929
we're all there. All of them are, uh, all of

575
00:41:09.969 --> 00:41:14.550
our counselors are master level, um, or above. Um, there's

576
00:41:14.590 --> 00:41:18.900
always a psychiatrist, like we have a pharmacy on site. Um,

577
00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:22.980
they actually do get their phones after 72 hours. We

578
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.599
do have wifi. We work with, um, students. So if

579
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.960
they're in college, they can, um, get online and do

580
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.219
their virtual classes. We work with, you know, people in

581
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.940
the court system with POs. Yeah. So a lot of

582
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.199
them will choose that because we do allow, we allow

583
00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:46.429
service animals as well, which a lot of places won't.

584
00:41:46.969 --> 00:41:50.670
And we do allow couples on a case by case,

585
00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:54.769
you know, basis. So they can stay under the same roof,

586
00:41:55.030 --> 00:41:59.650
you know, get sober together. And yeah, it, you know, if,

587
00:42:00.289 --> 00:42:03.269
if they can both get sober together, it normally works,

588
00:42:03.409 --> 00:42:07.329
you know? So, and our, like I said, it's like

589
00:42:07.349 --> 00:42:11.309
a resort. So there's only two beds or two people

590
00:42:11.429 --> 00:42:14.090
per room. And then they also have a shower and

591
00:42:14.110 --> 00:42:17.989
a bathroom in each room, which is really, really nice.

592
00:42:19.829 --> 00:42:22.510
So that's why they choose, honestly, a lot of them,

593
00:42:22.969 --> 00:42:25.530
you know, they ask if they can use nicotine products. We,

594
00:42:25.750 --> 00:42:28.599
we allow nicotine products on our, You know, a lot

595
00:42:28.619 --> 00:42:30.719
of them, they're like, I'm not going to quit smoking.

596
00:42:30.820 --> 00:42:35.039
I'm like, I get it. You're addicted. So, yeah, we

597
00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:39.980
allow it. So, you know, just those factors alone is

598
00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:44.179
one of the many reasons that a lot of people

599
00:42:44.219 --> 00:42:46.260
want to come to American Addiction Centers.

600
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:53.420
Great. What would you say to the audience as to

601
00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:56.809
what are the first steps forward to take today if

602
00:42:56.849 --> 00:43:00.170
they have a family member or a friend that's in trouble?

603
00:43:00.570 --> 00:43:02.630
What is the first thing that they should do?

604
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.380
The first thing you could call me. Honestly, my number

605
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.780
is at the bottom of this and call me and

606
00:43:10.980 --> 00:43:14.019
I can answer any questions. And if I don't have

607
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.300
the answer to the question, I will get the answer

608
00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:20.099
for you. And if say, if you don't want to

609
00:43:20.139 --> 00:43:22.619
talk to me, you can actually call into our admissions team.

610
00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:28.280
They are available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

611
00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:35.150
We don't quit at five. We work all the time.

612
00:43:35.349 --> 00:43:41.199
So they're more than welcome to call them. The admissions navigators,

613
00:43:41.380 --> 00:43:45.519
they're amazing. I work with all of them and they're

614
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.559
absolutely amazing. And they will do anything and everything to

615
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:52.780
get somebody help so yeah or you can just go

616
00:43:52.940 --> 00:43:56.360
on the website on American Addiction Centers dot org and

617
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.659
you know look at our the programs that we offer

618
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.789
and yeah there's there's a few different ways so a

619
00:44:03.829 --> 00:44:09.389
lot of people will just you know submit their insurance

620
00:44:09.429 --> 00:44:12.929
information and their name onto our website and then the

621
00:44:12.969 --> 00:44:17.300
navigators admission navigators will reach out to them and then

622
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.570
I will also reach out to them so And there's

623
00:44:20.630 --> 00:44:22.969
multiple ways that they can get help.

624
00:44:24.869 --> 00:44:29.989
Yeah, I looked up the Desert Hope Treatment Center. It's

625
00:44:30.090 --> 00:44:36.500
in Las Vegas. Are you stationed there?

626
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.989
I am in northern Nevada, but I do work with

627
00:44:43.030 --> 00:44:45.929
that facility very closely. I've been down there a few times.

628
00:44:47.269 --> 00:44:50.880
doing some trainings and just looking at the facility and

629
00:44:50.909 --> 00:44:55.059
seeing the culture myself, you know. And so, yeah, we,

630
00:44:55.260 --> 00:44:58.179
a lot of people here in Northern Nevada, they do

631
00:44:58.380 --> 00:45:00.940
go down to Vegas just because it's an hour and

632
00:45:00.940 --> 00:45:04.329
15 minute flight and super quick, you know, and it's

633
00:45:04.389 --> 00:45:07.550
in state. So they feel more comfortable staying in state.

634
00:45:09.170 --> 00:45:14.849
Yeah. I was just looking at some of the Wonderful benefits.

635
00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:19.110
I mean, they look like benefits to me. It is

636
00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:22.630
like a resort. You know, I was looking at it and,

637
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.719
you know, besides having, you know, the single or double

638
00:45:26.860 --> 00:45:34.650
rooms and recreational lounging and outdoor spaces and fitness centers

639
00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:39.489
and nutritionally balanced meals, I was down there looking at

640
00:45:39.530 --> 00:45:44.190
this one at Desert Hope and it says, daily transportation,

641
00:45:44.829 --> 00:45:54.539
chef prepared. Shoot, I'm checking in. A gym and lifestyle classes.

642
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:01.300
You got the free Wi-Fi, cable TV, housekeeping services. Now,

643
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.369
I'm telling you, that is a place to go to

644
00:46:05.130 --> 00:46:07.889
actually get, you know, some of the help that you're

645
00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:13.889
needing to Um, because it's a very, very relaxed, looks

646
00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:16.110
pretty relaxed to me. Like I say, it is like

647
00:46:16.170 --> 00:46:20.530
a resort, um, to have all of that, you know,

648
00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:27.269
just to get sober lifestyle established and help you through

649
00:46:27.309 --> 00:46:29.900
the pain and help you through the trauma and help

650
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:36.260
you become who you were created to be and take

651
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:44.500
those steps to, um, become sober. Try it. You'll like it.

652
00:46:46.269 --> 00:46:50.369
Believe me, try it. You'll like it. And it's, you know,

653
00:46:50.449 --> 00:46:55.849
there's just so many, many things that is wonderful. You know,

654
00:46:56.050 --> 00:47:00.039
I see that it has customized care for veterans, which,

655
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.860
you know, that's a totally different type of issue that,

656
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.420
you know, they are dealing with the trauma, the combat

657
00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:15.949
related injuries and stigmas about mental health problems and reintegrating

658
00:47:16.610 --> 00:47:21.639
back into civil life when they come in. They've gone

659
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.539
through a total different transition and most people don't even

660
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:28.800
understand what military people are going through to prepare for that.

661
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.019
And they're out in different countries and the things they're

662
00:47:32.059 --> 00:47:35.099
having to go through and then to come back into society.

663
00:47:35.969 --> 00:47:39.570
and things have all changed. And, and then you have

664
00:47:39.610 --> 00:47:44.170
people that may have been incarcerated and they are coming

665
00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:49.650
back and having to, you know, re, you know, introduce

666
00:47:49.690 --> 00:47:54.849
themselves to society. And so they're, they're feeling, you know,

667
00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:58.050
the depression and everything else. And so they're looking for

668
00:47:58.610 --> 00:48:03.280
something to take away all of that pain. And so

669
00:48:03.300 --> 00:48:08.550
you just have, I mean, just an absolutely wonderful program.

670
00:48:09.590 --> 00:48:15.250
And it seems to me like there's no excuse for

671
00:48:15.289 --> 00:48:21.489
you not signing up for the program and getting some

672
00:48:21.530 --> 00:48:26.320
of the assistance that you can get. I mean, most

673
00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:33.380
places you're not even going to have those kind of benefits. And, oh,

674
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:34.199
that's just wonderful.

675
00:48:35.949 --> 00:48:40.449
We actually started a first responders program as well there

676
00:48:40.469 --> 00:48:45.219
at Desert Hope. Yeah, so they actually have their own

677
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:52.019
wing and their own entrance, their own personalized therapy time.

678
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:56.960
It is amazing. And, you know, the first responders also

679
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.780
see a lot more than we do. you know civil

680
00:49:01.179 --> 00:49:05.400
civilliancy so they decided to launch this and so they

681
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.099
can be with their own peers so that's.

682
00:49:07.900 --> 00:49:12.570
Amazing yeah wonderful well i want to i think i

683
00:49:12.610 --> 00:49:15.289
cut you off when i asked you to to give

684
00:49:15.329 --> 00:49:18.190
them the number so if you will speak it out

685
00:49:18.210 --> 00:49:21.219
because we're on radio as well as TV. So if

686
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:26.199
you will read that your your phone number of where

687
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:27.460
to reach out to you.

688
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:31.949
Yeah, absolutely. My phone number is and this is my

689
00:49:31.989 --> 00:49:35.619
cell phone, which is on 24 hours. Seven days a week,

690
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:43.710
it's 307-214-2362. And you can also reach out to my

691
00:49:43.969 --> 00:49:53.530
email if you would like. It's H-U-S-E-R-A at contactaac.com. But

692
00:49:53.659 --> 00:49:55.659
you'll get me faster if you reach out to my

693
00:49:55.699 --> 00:49:56.219
phone number.

694
00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:03.340
Okay, so you have the contact information. You have all

695
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:06.860
the information so that you can go and sign in

696
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:11.280
and become well. I just want to just thank you, Heather,

697
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.650
for being here, sharing this wonderful information so people can

698
00:50:16.130 --> 00:50:19.170
have a place to go to be able to become

699
00:50:19.329 --> 00:50:23.440
sober and to become their best self. This is A

700
00:50:23.739 --> 00:50:27.150
Sharp Outlook. This is the program where we try to

701
00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:31.380
inform you, give you information so that you can improve

702
00:50:31.389 --> 00:50:36.059
your business or improve your life or get better health

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