April 20, 2026

Polluted and Ignored: A Community’s Fight for EPA Intervention

Polluted and Ignored: A Community’s Fight for EPA Intervention
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Season 1

A resident describing the smell, the water, or health effects. Community members have a higher-than-normal rate of cancers, lung disease and organ failure.
Today we’re asking: When your neighborhood is polluted, how do you make the EPA do something about it?
What happens when the jurisdiction from the EPA fails to do their job and endangers communities and residents. You can’t ignore pollution.

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Hello, and thank you for tuning in to a Sharp

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Outlook on K four HD Radio and Talk or TV.

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I am Angela Sharp, your host. Our arm chair discussions

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with industry experts will give you the steps, tools and

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information to be successful in business and to prepare you

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to be your best self. Hello, I'm Angela Sharp, and

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welcome to our show. It's going to be an interesting

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one and I would like everyone to pay close attention

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because there are things that are going on that affect

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a lot of people. Just imagine being in an environment

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where things are polluted, not only polluted, but ignored. A

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community fight for EPA intervention. Residents are describing the smell,

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the water, the health effects. Community members have a higher

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than normal rate of cancers, lung disease, and organ failures.

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Today we're asking when your neighborhood is polluted, how do

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you make the EPA do something about it? What happens

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when the jurisdiction from the EPA fails to do their

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job and endangers communities and residents. One thing you can't

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ignore is the pollution. You can't ignore the noises that

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are made, can't ignore the smells. You can't ignore the

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bad water. You can't ignore the green gas pollution. It

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can't be ignored. And we're going to talk about it

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today because we need voices that are going to stand

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up and say, Okay, there's some things we have had

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enough of, and today we're going to talk about it.

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My guest today as Catherine Chitwood. She is a technology

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founder and systems architect focused on deep tech through her

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venture making Smiles Happen. As the lead auditor for Case

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five one one, she specializes in the msh U one

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one Dignity Protocol, a forensic framework designed to bridge the

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gap between AI energy usage and ecological responsibility. Her work

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identifies infrastructure necrosis by auditing the divergence I mean digital

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ledgers and physical resource solvency. I'd like to invite Catherine

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to join me because we want to talk about this

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and have time thoroughly to discuss the things that are happening.

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Because everybody is all excited about AI, but there are

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some things that are happening because of all of the

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data centers, and we need to talk about that truthfully,

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authentically and let you know what's really going on so

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then we can have some resolutions and solutions. So Catherine,

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thank you for joining me today.

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Yeah, I'm very excited.

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Yeah. You know, as I was kind of preparing for

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this show, I really started thinking about it because I

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work in tech and I started when the first PC

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came out, so we didn't have these kinds of issues

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that we have now, and I've seen the progression and

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the revolution of technology, and you know, I'm excited about

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the next stage. But you know, the next stage always

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means there needs to be some preparations. So kind of

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tell me about some of the pollution problems where you live,

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or what do you see and smell experience every day.

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So I am about I'm five miles away from the

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Klispell tribe and they they're phenomenal stewards of our community.

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And one of the big things with AI and data

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is the noise and so there's a certain decibel level

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that it's it's it impacts the the animals, the people,

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and there's scientific proof that shows that it can cause

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disruption in your can cause physiological problems, anxiety and things

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like that, and it's an invisible threat and so you

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can be living in it a canmun unity and not

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realize that is what's causing it. And a lot of

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these large corporations, they've it's been kind of built into

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their business model to financially be able, to avoid accountability,

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and we're learning that's not healthy for our economy and

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for our people. And so just because something has money

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on paper doesn't mean that it's good for our community.

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So we introduced AI and it's great. And like you said,

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you know, we went from analog systems and Internet being introduced,

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and we're kind of in this window of time where

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AI is this phenomenal evolution of that processing power, but

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it's not being fully applied to our governance in a

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way that can kind of help make some of these

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help some pride, some solutions.

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So instead, we.

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Have over five thousand AI plants in the United States

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and China has less than five hundred. Right, we have

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a ton of them, and we brought them all in

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because they're you know, they're the next step.

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Their analog computer systems, they don't talk to each other

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the same way that like AI systems can, and so

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we have this black hole where it's not being It's

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not that the work's not being done, it's just that

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it's the computers aren't talking to each other. And so

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now we've got five thousand data plants across the country

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and we're we're seeing ecological environmental damage and data breaches.

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They specifically, uh, you know, with our legacy systems, how

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we learned how to organize our information was based just

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normal draft records and homes and things like that. As

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history progressed, well, IBM was used during World War two.

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Cost that it's a technology firm, and it's not to

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say the technology is a bad thing, but how it's

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applied absolutely can affect human beings. And we have to

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not take our autonomy out of the autonomous systems that

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we're trying to apply to help the people, because right

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now they're kind of being they're being out of their

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lifted out of their jobs because all these firms are

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trying to finance you know, the AI boom, but that

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money isn't getting to the people's and then environmentally, it's

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really causing a lot of problems. So we see like

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in Oregon, I've looked at studies where twenty five out

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of thirty homes in the Uma River basin there were

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miscarriage cases. There's a lot of high nitrate and chemical

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Not necessarily the chemicals are coming like that anybody at

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the particular facility is doing anything wrong with chemicals. What

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it is is it's the it's the infrastructure damage that

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is done by fans. So when there's thousands of fans

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that are running, that causes vibration. And so it also

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when you're running a really like a lot of megawats,

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that's pulling power away from the municipal systems, so you'll

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have like draw downs and lags. And when you have

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that and you're on a closed loop system you're plumbing,

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that causes a drop in the pressure of your water power,

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and so there's more of the you know, the bacteria

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whatever or alfhi bluem essentially.

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So so a normal.

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Combatant to that for most counties would be that they

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it's typical to use a certain safe number or certain

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safe level of like a chlorine flush. But we're seeing

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more commonly in these counts that that's being used as

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It's not being used as like an emergency measure to

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balance the types. It's being used as like we got

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to clear out again because they were getting all gunked

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up and yucky.

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Well, then that chlorine makes it to the people.

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So yeah, it sounds like, okay, you know, we just

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really have a major problem here. Yeah we knew this, Yeah,

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because we did have you know, small, smaller usage of

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the data centers now, and they knew exactly what was

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going to be required. Why didn't somebody set up a

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plan of how we're going to do this safely. Why

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didn't they consider, Hello, use some dollars to rebuild the

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infrastructure we have so it could handle some of these

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areas don't even have they've never even had Wi Fi

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because they didn't have infrastructure. And now you want to

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with these enormous data centers and their communities and just

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flood them with all of these pollutants because you don't

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have a good infrastructure to start with, you know, I

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mean I was in a storm back in South Dakota

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and we were shut down for weeks and weeks and

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weeks from a snowstorm because the infrastructure, the electrical system

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that we had the grids, had not been changed since

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nineteen twenty two something that's like, are you kidding me?

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This two thousand? Come on, people, you know what are

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you doing with the money? And this is and so

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now everybody has to suffer because people didn't plan. And

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then when there's money involved, everyone jumps on board these

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these You know, I love tech, but I know that

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this is, to me, is very irresponsible that you didn't

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think about the fact that you were going to need

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data centers, you were going to need to have some

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way of cooling these this equipment so that it could

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manage all of this. And then now you've got everybody

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in the world in there wanting to do their little

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cat thing all day, loll on the system, and it's

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just using up, using up fresh water. We barely have

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fresh water now because of other pollutants that we've had,

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and now we're doing this without any consider This is

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what frustrates me. When did somebody do what do you

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call it an environmental study to see what the results

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were going to be. It's not like you hadn't used

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data centers, because you know, when we first went to

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the cloud, you had to have data centers, so you

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knew how much was going to be needed. You knew

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the needed a cooling system, you knew you were going

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to need the water, and yet you didn't do anything

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to build us structure that could really manage this better

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than what we're doing right now. I mean, what is that.

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It's not like you didn't have the money. I know

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you all got the money. You corporations. I've worked for corporations.

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You had the money to do this right. And I.

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Hate to say, but it it.

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I think that what we're coming to in our country

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is it's really going to show who the what entities

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and states are trying to play above board and which

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ones are maybe trying to present as if they are

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above board.

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Because when our particular facility.

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Was brought in here, it was like twenty twenty, So

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I was thinking about the timeline like AI for it

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to have been brought in here at that time, that's

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way before we had before the general public knew a

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whole lot about AI and data, and I was thinking

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the same thing, like why would they put that into

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a rural community and it's kind of.

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A doubleshed sword.

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It's like we're rural communities who are a high concentration,

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high population of retired there. They have their land, but

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that's what they have under their feet. They're not they're

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not rich in money. They have what they have to

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hold on to and they've made a lot of them

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have made the sacrifice that their sons and daughters didn't

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have to to go into the military. And when our

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AI and data facilities have been established based off of

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the data that we have recorded, then one of the

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biggest ones is going to be our military files all

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around the world, every country, and so it really creates

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a perfect it's a microcosm. It's like they could see

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us on a map and we couldn't see them, and

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our military wouldn't have known to be looking for evil.

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They don't.

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They wouldn't know when they when someone comes and the

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person is in uniform and they're they're acting as on

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behalf of AI Corporation as opposed to on behalf of

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the uniform that they're wearing our military. Our local residents

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are going to see that as a respectful person, an

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individual that they can trust, whereas that person is not

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representing on behalf of our country and on behalf of

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us as people. They're representing the firm that is making money.

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They have an you know, an objective there, and so

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that's very It makes me feel frustrated, like how dare

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you take advantage? And then you know when So I

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ended up my husband worked for this data facility and

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I dropped off a letter of intent for them to

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reclassify to agricultural and I did that the first week

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of January and they responded to that by calling the

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sheriff on me. And then a month later they had

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they terminated in and I had filed with the SEC

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as a whistleblower. They know that, and it kind of

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was just it's it's hard because I the more that

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I'm reading, the more I'm learning is that this is

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a pretty common tactic when there's regulatory capture. And that's

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why we have to have transparent systems in places, because

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somebody can say that they are they're doing their job,

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but it's our right now.

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They're even hiding. Yeah, they're lighting with the names of

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the company that's even there. They're putting in different names

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and you know, so that that you know is pretty concerning.

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You know, you need to own up if you're going

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to go in and destroy a community, own up that

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you're the person responsible for it, because you're the one

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that needs to spend your billions of dollars to you know,

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fix this community. There are people's lives involved here, and

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this is the part. You know, I have several shows

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about you know, even healthcare and different things. We have

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taken humanity out of our business and now we're just

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you know, everything's like robotic people are not even considered.

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You know, it's almost as if you know, we're disposable.

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We're not disposable. We're human beings. We are creatures that

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were created by the Creator himself, and no one has

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the right to just go in and poison you know,

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communities and do different things. Now, maybe you know, I'm

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going to try to be really nice about this. Maybe

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some of the organizations, these corporations, I doubt it, but

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didn't realize what the impact was going to be. But

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now that you know what the impact was going to be,

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what are you doing to make a solution? And putting

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in another data center isn't the solution? The solution is

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identifying how can you reduce the amount of impact, the noise,

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the light, the green, you know, the gases that are

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being admitted, you know, because they've got to keep using

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fresh water because it'll destroy the database if the water

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isn't clean, so they can't even reuse the water that

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they have, So they're dumping water which has pollutants on

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it in the water system. Then you have all the

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noise from it running, you know, twenty four to seven,

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and then yeah, it's impacting people. They're not ended up

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having enough energy, their costs are going up, their water

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isn't clean. All of these are things as a result

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that somebody failed to their study or knew that if

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they did their study, they wouldn't be able to do

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the data center after all, and the whole thing is

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there with so many data centers. You got more data

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centers than you have agriculture right now, and with some

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data centers, this is what I came up with. We're

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getting ready to try to use these data centers is

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the next commerce. We're going to use it, you know,

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because we've lost the ability to manufacture the way we

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used to. You know, we used to be king of manufacturing. No,

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we outsourced all of that, haven't gotten it back, and

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so we don't make anything to bring money here. This

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is going to be currency, so that, yeah, there's money.

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You know what happens when money is involved. Yeah, with

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eyes ears can't hear people can you know? It's told

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so you know, we have to It's wonderful to have AI,

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but there's consequences, and I think we need to let

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people know. It's a beautiful thing that we've come to

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this level, this this level in the tech world. But

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when it begins hurting people's lives, destroying communities, killing off

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animals and all things like that, is it worth the dollar?

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That's Is it worth the dollar to have people hurting

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you know, the health issues they're getting you know.

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Oh, and I really feel like out here where we're

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we are right by the reservation, I feel like it

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creates a really inconsistent environment for children.

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Who are they're humans and they're going to be adults.

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We're not raising babies, were raising humans are going to

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be out in the world as adults. So when you

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have a Caucasian child and an Indigenous child who are

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having inconsistency in how an adult teacher is handling them

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because that adult teacher is participating in an ecosystem of

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high school politics more than actual like beneficial politics for

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the community. Like it doesn't teach the kids anything. It

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teaches them that, like people are not accountable, people don't

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have ethics, and they're not they're lying, they're not fault.

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You know, they say one thing and they're doing another, and.

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It just it's it the way that I think that

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what I hope that I as a society, as a

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global population, that we're maturing to and coming conscious of,

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is that with these systems and our legacy, how we

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organized information before it was it was a targeted attack on.

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Minority populations or the beginning of these in you know,

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the information collection, so where their indigenous populations were already

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remotely isolated when they started having their children go to

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public schools. It wasn't as a means of philanthropy. It

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was as a means for the public school to be

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able to say, I have this number of students who

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are indigenous, and we get a check for that. And

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so it commodifies human beings as opposed to incentivizing the

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nurturing of human beings. And they're just it's two totally different,

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you know.

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And what they've done studies about other types of pollutants

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in communities, and they've shown that most of the time,

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these kinds of centers, these kinds of nuclear you know,

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things that have been put in communities, they've been always

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placed in communities that are low income, minority, or indigenous.

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So now, obviously there's a reason why you would have

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put them in those particular places. I don't want to

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think about how just how terrible that is or what

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could have been going through your mind that you would say,

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let's put in this community because these people, you know,

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are disposable. Is that is that the mindset? What was

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the mindset that this has happened so many times that

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it's a pattern, it's not an accident, it is a pattern.

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It is a thought out pattern, and that within itself,

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is so absolutely disturbing that, yeah, we have to speak out,

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we have to make our voices heard, because just because

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economically we're not at the million dollar level or the

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billion dollar level, doesn't mean that we don't have value.

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Everyone takes breath, you know, when they come from the wound,

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they take a breath, They breathe, breathe, in value, and

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they are valuable and they have a purpose, and no

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one has a right to just do things like that

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and poison water and no Michigan was going through this

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where they the water was poison and so desperately and

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just different things are happening, and I think we really

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need to, like, we need to do a hard check

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because the shop really sinister and wrong when you know

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what you're doing can harm communities, not two or three,

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we're talking about whole communities of people, and that within

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itself what Congress sent it, Hey, what are your people

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doing that You are not paying attention to this kind

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of behavior. You're there making laws, but then you're not

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even in they're not enforcing it because the EPA is

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supposed now you're you know, looking at this and seeing

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it it's a problem. Hello, where are you hiding?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, And it's That's what I've just continued expecting to

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find at some point, was like somebody is going to

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come forward and tell me that I was grossly mistaken,

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and they've got all of the you know, all their

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their te's crossed and everything's good.

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No, that's not what's been going on.

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They want you to believe that they have it all handled,

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but it's been a rushed situation. They brought in AI

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and data without testing it because they didn't they wanted

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to be able to ask for forgiveness later, not ask

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for permission preemptively. They don't want to invest in it

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in what could benefit beforehand because it's a profit margin situation.

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So that's why they're able to easily justify like, well,

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if if it hurts a few or whatever, It's like,

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I don't know how you justify that when it comes

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to people, but there are That was one thing with

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the EPA specifically in my county, I was able to

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find email. I did a bunch of Foyer requests, and

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I was able to get email and text documentation from

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around twenty twenty two.

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And so.

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Our congressmen knew back in twenty twenty and leading up

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to now about AI and that it was going to

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be brought into the States because, like you said, it's

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an efficient way of governance. But when those congressmen are

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specifically maneuvering around rural counties having EPA oversight, that's it's like,

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how is that not a conflict of interest?

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We have the EPA for.

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We care about the environment because we care about the people.

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People depend on the nature and the animals. So it's

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what they did was they filed paperwork essentially for DEI,

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so that we would be on paper. It was like, well,

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we're too poor, we can't do all the jump through

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all these hoops, so just let us do this and

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everything's good.

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It's all kosher.

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And they were able to avoid doing an audit and

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a ground survey that would have told them we've got

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a nineteen sixty four bridge that's on its last legs.

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We've got a nineteen sixty.

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Four transformer as well, and we haven't done a survey.

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And they changed a rural five zone into industrial to

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put that data data facility in and the people have

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a right to speak out against that. There are people

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who have been depending on are there's a freshwater stream

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that's on Leclair and because of how the water table

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when the pud or the dam when they manipulate the water,

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and we're in an area that has a water table

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and it's been flooded before and everything just because the

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water's not wet at one time, it's all being affected.

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Because the water speaks underneath the soil, the to each other,

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whether we can see it or not. And things are

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happening to where like that fresh water stream could be collapsed.

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People who have been depending on that as their water

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for decades that goes away. And that's in a rural

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five zone that's being directly impacted by an industrial introduction

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that the people didn't get a chance to vote on

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to vote on.

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But yet even in that, the EPA has a responsibility.

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It is their policy. It's the policy everywhere. You're not

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even supposed to be able to build anything until you

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go in and do a study of the effects that

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it'll have, you know, on the people there, the effects

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on the water, the effects on it. You are supposed

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to do that study before you ever even probably draw

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your blueprints, let alone start construction and already in business.

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So what happened to the study? Did you ever see

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the EPA study? So we don't. Yeah, so where's the oversight,

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because then someone's supposed to be saying, okay, we see

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these buildings here, we need to see that oversight was there.

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You obviously got approve of by the EPA to do

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this because of the impact it's going to have. Then

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the EPA is now responsible for the cleanup. But if

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they didn't do a study, someone I'm also an accountant,

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someone didn't follow the business processes, and someone didn't do

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the audit to make sure that the study was done.

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And if one was done, somebody didn't really do it correctly,

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or you would have identified these issues before you've got

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these billion dollar buildings sitting on it. So the whole

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process failed. But I don't know that it was accidental,

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because this is everybody else, you know. I do work

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with cities and counties and states putting in SISS and

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I see the policies and things, and I understand that

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they have to do environmental studies. So I'm not understanding

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what happened in the in the state and in the

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county and in the city where you resided. Yea, that

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study wasn't done. And then federally, it's supposed they're supposed

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to make sure that the study is being done, especially

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something that they already know impacts communities. So we have

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a real major communication failure, or we have some things

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that might even be worse going on. I know these

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corporations are huge. I know they have lots of money.

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I know they give money to your campaigns, But Okay,

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somewhere along the line, there has to be a conscience.

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Somewhere on the line. You have to have character or

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integrity enough to say, do you know there's people at

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the end of this road here? Do you know what

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we're doing to the people? You don't care about the animals.

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I know that you don't care about the environment, But

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there's people living there with children that are going to

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have to grow up and then aren't going to grow

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up healthy, all because somebody didn't do their job. There

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was this accidental? Was it deliberate? But I think yes,

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there needs to be an audit of it because there's

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total failure here. And in the meantime, during that time,

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maybe they're going to have to shut down some of

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these data sites until they do the job right and

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come up with some solutions. And that's just why we give.

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You know, we vote for these people. We put them

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in an authority to make right decisions on behalf of

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the citizens, not the corporations. Stop this story that corporations

467
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are people too. That is a lot. They're not people now,

468
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.960
oh my goodness. Last time I checked, they're not bring,

469
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.440
they're not eating well, they are stuck on the ball.

470
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.599
The water, but they're not people and they don't have

471
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.759
a right to be a part of a vote. So

472
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.319
stop paying money out for your corporation because it's not

473
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:18.079
a person. It's an organism, but it's not a human organism,

474
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.880
so it doesn't have voting rights, and we need to

475
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.319
some of this stuff needs to stop or we're never

476
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:29.400
ever going to stop this behavior that's destroying people, you know,

477
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:30.680
And I think it's.

478
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:33.319
It's a lot of people.

479
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.960
They have a it's a different perspective, like polar opposite

480
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:44.960
perspective on the green like go green initiatives, and it's

481
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:50.000
it's interesting, I feel like there's been this it's almost

482
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.720
like an intentional misrepresentation. So we have so many wealthy

483
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:58.640
corporations that are green washing, and that's not the same

484
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:03.480
thing as like actual being a circulatory system. That's that's

485
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:10.119
it's basically paying money to appear as if you're being beneficial,

486
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.920
you know, going green, and then we find out like

487
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.559
well they were throwing stuff away on an island somewhere

488
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.960
or whatever, like just because you lied about it on paper,

489
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:24.319
that's not green, and it's it comes out like the universe.

490
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:28.960
It's I believe that energy can't be created or destroyed.

491
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.960
I believe that lies are going to come out.

492
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.480
And you know, that's kind of where we're coming to

493
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.440
is with this progression of technology, all of the little

494
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.279
white lies on paper and how we organize things and

495
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:45.039
did our stuff, it's gonna come to we're being able

496
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:45.680
to see.

497
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.359
It a lot better right now.

498
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:53.000
Yeah, yeah, And I think they're not up and this

499
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.640
is about money because they're putting these centers in so

500
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.960
they can let people go for these these these.

501
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.640
Systems to do you know, major jobs and so now

502
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.759
we don't have So where's the benefit here? Oh, well,

503
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:12.559
you can come in and work at the data centers

504
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.839
or you're going to there's jobs to be had, not

505
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.240
at the level that are going to be needed. And

506
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.759
that was another thing that has not been thought out.

507
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.720
You don't do these kinds of things without having a

508
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:26.559
full business plan as to what the impact is going

509
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.960
to be, what's going to take place, what are going

510
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.160
to be the results? How am I going to plan

511
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.440
for a whole new workforce? You know that when they

512
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.759
you know, way back in you know, after World War two,

513
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.599
all of the you know, development of systems and things

514
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.559
like that, they had to figure out what to do

515
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.319
with the workforce and New Jobs team and things like that.

516
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.880
Where's that plan if you're going to be replacing all

517
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.519
these people with AI, where's the plan of new jobs?

518
00:32:58.720 --> 00:32:59.880
What are they supposed to be doing?

519
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.880
And we you know, as a country, it's it's been

520
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.680
we we made it to where our education system was

521
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.680
a profit sector instead of just an an entitlement, like

522
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.160
people should be entitled to the education. We should not

523
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.039
be charging people to learn because it keeps us ignorant

524
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:20.400
and then.

525
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.519
We don't improve or you know, evolve.

526
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.200
So so now people are arguing over what green really

527
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:29.200
is and what.

528
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.599
It just it's I lost trade of thought.

529
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:38.000
But it's it's really hard because you they're they're rushing

530
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.799
for this, like great thing, but we're going to burn

531
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:43.799
down the power grid in the process, and we don't

532
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.240
have enough linemen. We're looking at a deficit of like

533
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:52.319
four hundred thousand not specifically alignment, but like the hours itself,

534
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:56.279
because we can't just hire four hundred thousand lignemen. We're

535
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.000
already looking at a power anticipation or power in crease

536
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.799
or draw We're supposed to be looking at like a

537
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.839
demand increase of double by twenty thirty two. So if

538
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.199
our power demand is going to go up by that much,

539
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.039
we need a lot of linemen.

540
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.559
To be able to do the actual physical.

541
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.000
Labor on the ground. And our lead time for our

542
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.079
transformers is like one to two years right now. It's like,

543
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.360
you guys aren't being you're not being resourceful, and you're

544
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.920
not you're not being careful with your If they were

545
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.360
to do liquid immersion cooling, the copper would last longer.

546
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.199
Because they're not doing liquid immersion cooling, the copper gets

547
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.119
burned up faster. So my whole thought is like, you guys,

548
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:39.559
your wastefulness doesn't get to justify the rest of us

549
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.639
right burn into death. Like we got to figure out

550
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.199
something that benefits everybody that we're not wasting our copper.

551
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.000
We're doing it efficiently. These minerals, you know, we can't

552
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.360
be we can't be rushing.

553
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.480
It has to be done correctly.

554
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.239
It needs to be done correctly. And the thing is

555
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.920
that you were saying there aren't enough people to do

556
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:00.760
the work.

557
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.920
Because somewhere somebody got rid of shop in the high

558
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:12.480
school so that guys or any girls would learn trade skills.

559
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.679
Because you need someone to climb the poles. You need

560
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.800
someone who understands electricity, You need someone who understands the

561
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.119
plumbing and the water. You need a whole lot of skills.

562
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.280
But you didn't think about getting everybody trained and having

563
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.599
the workforce to do that. So you know, come on, people,

564
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.920
I mean, yes, it's wonderful that you have created AI,

565
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.599
but come on, you know all this other stuff that

566
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.199
was going to have to be done, and you didn't

567
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.199
prepare for a workforce to be able to do it right,

568
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.719
like you said, So we could have built the grids

569
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.920
so they wouldn't be burning up, they would be more

570
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.880
sufficient and things like that and probably would not be

571
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.880
utilizing that power of the way it is. But no,

572
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.039
we didn't think about that. And all of the people

573
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.480
who have the skills are like being older and retired,

574
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.079
and the younger ones have not. So if you want

575
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.519
to do something, let's start getting some skills training, you know,

576
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:24.960
oasises all around the country and start attracting younger people

577
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.159
to get into the trades and the skills. And if

578
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:32.159
you have to give them a sign on bonus dad gone,

579
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.000
and I've seen you do it for other stuff, give

580
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.320
them the money to encourage them. It's worth their time

581
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:45.360
to come and become entrepreneurs in the area of trade.

582
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.519
This is so poorly thought out.

583
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.559
Yeah, and I know so many there's so many ways

584
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:56.960
that we could implement different education into AI, you know,

585
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:01.719
are like localized facilities. And I believe that we're going

586
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.280
to have a really really strong nation is if we

587
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.960
have to have our security and our stability locally in

588
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.239
our local counties. You can't have you can't do that

589
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.159
just for the whole nation all just one because if

590
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.559
you're if your trade or if your distribution routes go down,

591
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:23.679
or if one spoke breaks, it ruins the whole thing.

592
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.960
So it's like, yeah, we have to have localized and

593
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.639
out here we're kind of in the position where like

594
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.760
they were teamed up with WSU and then that I

595
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.119
guess fell apart. I don't.

596
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.400
I'm not really sure. That kind of seems like maybe.

597
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.320
That was they knew that that was going to fall amart,

598
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.920
But it's I think that that is the way to

599
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.440
do it, is that universities can pair with.

600
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.119
These data facilities.

601
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.280
Technicians can be on the ground learning how to operate

602
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.840
out of fix the machinery or learning the trade of

603
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.679
being the lineman they can be, they can be. I

604
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.840
had a proposal that I put together for called a

605
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.519
pilot seventy one, and essentially it would be we're using

606
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.119
AI to take the unused hotel rooms that aren't booked

607
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:13.119
for all the hotels across country and they need that

608
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.039
tax right off because otherwise it's just sitting.

609
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:19.920
And so they use an API system in AI and

610
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:20.760
they would.

611
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:26.559
Essentially have any of their upcoming like expiring reservations in

612
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.639
the next five to seven days, they would just divert

613
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:32.679
those to an API that was solely for being resold

614
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.599
because they know that they're not.

615
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.360
Going to book those hotel rooms.

616
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:36.960
And then when they're sold, we sell them for one

617
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.400
hundred dollars and the money from that goes towards healthcare

618
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.119
funding goes towards students who are learning how to do

619
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.760
you know? This all originally was inspired because my husband

620
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.400
needed an oral reconstruction surgery back in September, so I

621
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.440
was working for the Kallispelled Daycare. I resigned from my

622
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.119
job to start my website, Making Smiles Happen, because he

623
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.519
needed forty two thousand dollars and we didn't have insurance

624
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.800
and they don't off they don't allow you to use

625
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.480
I mean, insurance doesn't cover an oral reconstruction, which is

626
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.239
crazy because it's significant enough that it could kill him,

627
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.280
but not significant enough that we can use insurance. So

628
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.920
I had this idea, like, well, if we could sell

629
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.639
four hundred and twenty rooms at one hundred bucks a pop,

630
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.239
that would pay for my husband's life. It would save

631
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:26.119
his life. My father in law ended up he believed

632
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.639
in the website and he gave us the money as

633
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.119
a loan. And I've since then just been networking with

634
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.920
people on LinkedIn, and I realized, like, well, my website

635
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:39.280
depends on AI and this can help me. I want

636
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.760
to help as many people as possible, and AI depends

637
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:44.679
on these facilities working. And if my husband works at

638
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.559
the one right up the road, like maybe they would

639
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.199
be interested. So I just think it's more the more

640
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.239
human beings that start working together.

641
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.559
A creative solution, yeah, and then.

642
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.719
We're definitely we'll get there. How do you think citizens

643
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.159
can file complaints or petitions to the EPA to make

644
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:06.719
them aware you need to.

645
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:11.440
Come and do something about this, you know, And I

646
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.639
don't have a lot of experience with like that, specifically

647
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:16.679
with the EPA, and I know that this is like

648
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.119
a totally new realm for them.

649
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.599
And I know that most.

650
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.760
Government bodies or corporations it's like if you send in

651
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.800
a complaint or an email, who knows if you're going

652
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.039
to hear back from that. So I have felt like

653
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.679
the most like productive has just been publicly like I'm

654
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.079
not lying, I'm telling the truth and I have the evidence.

655
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:42.440
So somebody needs to like explain what's going on here.

656
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:47.760
No, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean I went back

657
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.320
and I started looking at, you know, other stations that

658
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.840
are talking about the issue. So it's you're not the

659
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.760
only one sounding the alarm. It's around the country. Like

660
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.159
you say, there's almost fifty five hundred of these around

661
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.920
the country. There is a lot of communities in the

662
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:13.360
same position that your community is, and there needs to

663
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:18.119
be there someone that takes this to the floor at

664
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:22.280
congres and say, Okay, we are not following rules here,

665
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:27.280
we are not paying attention to the damage it's causing citizens.

666
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.239
We're not paying attention to the fact that, Okay, we've

667
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:34.199
got this situation where AI is going to really be

668
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:37.719
able to assist and help organizations and things like that,

669
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.360
but we don't have a plan for what's the next

670
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:45.880
workforce is going to look like and where the jobs

671
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.599
are going to be. And you know, they're you know,

672
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.760
like I said, they try to treat you know, lower

673
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.880
income and indigenous people as if we don't have voices.

674
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:03.159
But everybody, this this impacts everyone, and everybody's voice needs

675
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:07.119
to be heard. That we need to have some real

676
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:11.519
thought put into what's going on with AI and the

677
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.360
introduction of it, And because just like you said, just

678
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:20.320
the amount of energy that it absorbs, it was just

679
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.280
astounding to me to see that. You know, when somebody's

680
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:29.320
just asking chat GPT a question, it's like enough power

681
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.880
for one hundred thousand homes? Are you kidding me? And

682
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.679
people are on here like every second of the day

683
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.280
and just slucking up power and energy and things like that,

684
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:44.599
and uh, there just needs to be more plans put

685
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.199
out there, and if there are plans that you already have,

686
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.719
you need to go public and let people know and

687
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:57.119
make them aware that we have plans. We've heard your cries,

688
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:01.559
We're thinking about what's happening, and we've got solutions and

689
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.880
this is what we're going to do. How long's it

690
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.599
going to take to get it done what communities can expect.

691
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:12.760
But silence is not You can't ignore it and you

692
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.760
can't be silent. Somebody needs to speak out. Every one

693
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.000
of those corporations needs to have a spokesman that's going

694
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.920
to stand up and say, yes, we have data centers.

695
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.400
This is what it's going to do, not just for

696
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:31.800
your company or for the community, for the nation and

697
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.199
whoever else in the world if you have global customers.

698
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:42.280
But you need to start speaking about these situations like today, Yeah,

699
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.440
it's not today tomorrow, because you're supposed to have the plan.

700
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:51.159
So somebody come out and start telling people what's going on,

701
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:56.119
so they're not sitting there suffering and feeling hopeless and

702
00:43:56.280 --> 00:44:03.039
helpless because it's difficult to fight, you know, government issues

703
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:08.679
without a whole lot of clout and so you know,

704
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:12.960
if you don't have, you know, someone that goes up

705
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.360
the Congress every day, you know, the standing on the

706
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.519
steps and runs in and talks to people, you're not

707
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:23.039
going to be heard. Yeah, and that's not fair, that's

708
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.599
not you know, what are the timelines. We want to

709
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.199
know what the timelines, realistic timelines to fix the grids,

710
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to fix the problems, to tell us what your solutions

711
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.920
are to the future about jobs and plans for you

712
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:41.880
to set up training centers for all of these skills

713
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:45.480
that are needed so that infrastructure can be done. Stop saying, well,

714
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we don't have anyone to do it. Then put your

715
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:52.880
money where your mouth is and start paying, not charging them,

716
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:57.039
start paying for the workforce that you need. How about them.

717
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.480
I know that you'll put that in your plans. I

718
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:03.039
know you can put it in your budget because since

719
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.960
you have such a wonderful tax benefit of zero, then

720
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:12.159
take that benefit and use it the right way that

721
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:17.760
benefits the people who are purchasing and using your products.

722
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:19.440
That would be And that's the thing.

723
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.360
It just felt totally backwards because like the engineering proposal

724
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.320
that I am presenting, we're talking about two thousand pounds

725
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.159
of fodder for the buffalo herd every single day. We're

726
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.840
talking about ten to twenty to thirty acres of greenhouses

727
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.360
that are heated just from the heat from the miners.

728
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.400
So that heat is coming off anyways, and this heat

729
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.719
is the biggest problem that our country is facing because

730
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:51.119
it's it's our power grid was not built for AI

731
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.400
and it runs on a totally different wave and so

732
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.320
and for every six degree increase that our power grid does.

733
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.840
It it's called the argeneous man and it will cut

734
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.599
the life span of our power transformers in half. And

735
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.960
so everybody just thinks like it's the same as a

736
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.760
regular power like plug in or like the paper mill

737
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.800
that used to be here, and that was different. It

738
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:19.440
was rotating, it was it's a different kind of draw.

739
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.360
And so when you just have a plug in, which

740
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:29.199
is AI, it's hard and it's like it's at capacity

741
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.960
power and then or not. And so where the paper

742
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.679
mill was like gradually like up to eighty five megawatts,

743
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.840
the AI facilities are like it's six hundred watts. And

744
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.039
then that is not producing any food. That doesn't make

745
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.320
any sense. So that's that's the same thing as people

746
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.039
who went through the Irish famine or any indigenous community

747
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.400
that's ever suffered at the hands of colonialism, where the

748
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.599
resource extraction is happening, and you came here for the

749
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:00.920
cheap power. So if you're not going to produce some

750
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.519
food for people or some flodder for this herd, then

751
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.280
you don't need to be here. You're not benefiting us

752
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.239
in a way that keeps us strong as a community.

753
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.360
And so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

754
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:18.000
And it can be mutually beneficial. You know for everybody involved.

755
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.840
It would benefit the AI facilities because they would cut

756
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.760
their power bill in half if they were to switch

757
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.480
over to AG. And you know, we're not asking for

758
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.800
being in control of their AI and their data. We're

759
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.199
asking for what they're throwing away, which is the heat,

760
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.400
and what they're throwing away could feed the community. And

761
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:37.320
so it's just wasteful, it's inefficient, and then we're looking

762
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:41.280
at higher power bills, higher property tax rates, all of

763
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.599
that because they got they came in here, so they

764
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.760
come in here and they're this multimillion dollar corporation, so

765
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.119
on paper that says that everybody's property value has to

766
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.840
go up. Well, if they're getting the thirteen million dollar

767
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.599
break and our property values are going up, that doesn't

768
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.519
make sense. Our food's going up, or gases going up,

769
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.519
our properties are going up. We don't get any say

770
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:05.239
on what they're doing in the community or if they're

771
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:09.039
bringing anything to the community. And it seems like a

772
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:09.519
raw deal.

773
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:14.840
It is it is, and what we need, our environmental

774
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.480
justice advocates. I really do appreciate you bringing this to

775
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.840
my attention because this affects everyone. It made me start

776
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.360
looking about where the data centers are around around where

777
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.960
I live, and there is like, you know, forty miles

778
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.559
this way and twenty miles the other way, And like

779
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.840
I said, a lot of people they don't realize they

780
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.800
impacted having on them personally. And so we need those

781
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:52.239
environmental justice advocates because it's not just environmental it's also

782
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.639
our own personal sovereignty. Yes, I'm a person. I have

783
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.880
a right to clean water. I have a right a

784
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.239
right to to decent breathing air. I have a right

785
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.519
to have be able to go outside. I have a

786
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.360
right to be able to go to bed and sleep

787
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:13.639
and not have noise whirling in my brain all night

788
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:18.199
and causing all kinds of you know issues. You know

789
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.960
it affects the nerves and all this. We have a

790
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.840
right to do that. We are citizens. We have a

791
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:29.440
right to have that individual sovereignty that says I need

792
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:34.039
more and I expect more, and guess what you need

793
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:38.199
to come and give us more. These are billion dollar corporations.

794
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:43.280
We are the ones that have allowed you and helped

795
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.039
you to grow to this stage where you are just

796
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.239
super rich. Flowing flow some of that money back into

797
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.119
the communities. I just want to say thank you for

798
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.679
being here, Katherine. This was just so enjoyable, and thank

799
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:03.719
you for joining us and join us to become advocates

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to fight for our communities, our neighborhoods so that we

801
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.079
can get more answers to what's going on. Thank you

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