Aug. 25, 2025

Art Washes the Soul

Art Washes the Soul
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Season 1

Art of the Diaspora encompasses an incredibly wide range of artistic traditions, practices, and expressions from across the African continent and around the world. It's not a monolithic entity. From ancient rock paintings to contemporary, this art reflects the people of the Diaspora's rich cultural heritage, spiritual beliefs, social structures, and historical experiences. Important influences on the art are experiences that were joyful and experiences that were filled with pain and tears.

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Hello, and thank you for tuning in to a Sharp

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Outlook on pay for HD radio and Talk or TV.

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I am Angela Sharp, your host. Our arm chair discussions

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with industry experts will give you the steps, tools and

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information to be successful in business and to prepare you

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to be your best self. Hello, I'm Angela Sharp, and

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welcome to a Sharp Outlook Day. We're going to talk

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about something that I believe touches everyone, and that is art.

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The show today is called Art Watches the Soul, and

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it really does. When you really get engaged in get

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involved in what you're looking at, whether it be visual

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art from a painting or some canvas, or you're looking

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at a sculpture, or you're enjoying art on stage someone acting.

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That's all still art and art is really important today.

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Art of the diaspora is a term that encompasses an

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incredibly wide range of artistic traditions, practices, and expressions from

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across Africa continent and around the world. It's not a

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monolithic entity. We're talking about thousands of years of history,

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hundreds of distinct and ethnic groups, and diverse array of

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materials and techniques and purpose ruses, from ancient rock paintings

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to contemporary installations. This art refleet reflects the people of

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the diaspora, rich cultural heritage, spiritual beliefs, social structures, and

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historical experiences. In other words, it's an art that is

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actually coming from the soul, from experiences that they have

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gone through, experiences from history, from the beginning of time.

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I know people don't believe you can think back that far,

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but you know, today they're talking about the DNA. DNA

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never forgets, and we're talking about tens of thousands of

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years ago that we are still bringing in emotions, we're

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bringing in thoughts, we're bringing in things. You know, sometimes

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you feel like, gosh, seems like I've been here before.

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Maybe you have, maybe through an ancestor maybe you have yourself.

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But it's just kind of interesting how we reflect on

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things that we have seen before. A good starting point

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is to recognize the importance of contexts. Art from people

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of the Diaspora or any other group is often deeply

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intertwined with daily life, ritual, and community. It's not always

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created for purely esthetic purposes. Many objects are functional, spiritual,

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or social roles. For example, a mask are often used

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in ceremonies and rituals to connect with ancestors or spirits.

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Sculptures can be represent deities or some of importance in

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a community. Textiles can signify status or identity, importance, influence

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on art, or experiences that were joyful and experiences that

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were filled with pain and tears. We want to delve

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into the stories behind the world's most fascinating art and

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artist and today we're embarking on a journey to explore

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the vibrant and diverse world of the Diaspora through art.

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And we're incredibly fortunate to have with this Brenda Phillips,

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an artists that brings such expressional art that it touches

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your very soul. And I've seen her art and I'll

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tell you when I was thinking that art washes the soul,

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and it was something that I had seen her write,

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I thought, it really does you feel something? You cry,

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you laugh, It just affects you that way personally. Brenda

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is a self taught artist creating from digital art medium.

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Her digital paintings mirror the joy and energy she feels

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when creating works of uninhibited color, movement, and emotion. Her

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dedication to promote and preserving the diasporus rich artistic heritage

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has significantly contributed to raising awareness and appreciation for bold,

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colorful and emotion art that draws you into her passion.

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You begin to smile or cry or laugh, and you're

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drawn in and become a part of a story in

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the art piece. Brenda's passion for art began early in life.

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Growing up she exposed to She was exposed to diverse

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cultures and artistic expressions, which sparked a deep interest in

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the arts. She has a career in the performing arts

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as an actor Aldiko in the arts. She has a

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career in the performing arts as an actor, award winning playwriter,

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vocalists and poet at More Pity Party Blues, She worked

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at Visual and Performing Arts Academy and Visual Arts Strand.

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Her artistic work is characterized by a commitment to presenting

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some African arts and arts of the diaspora in a

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nuanced and inform manner, challenging stereotypes and promoting a deeper

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understanding of the cultural significance. She realizes art offers a

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profound window into the human experience for listeners. This may

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be familiar, how but I'm going to have Brenda join

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me now because I would like to find out more

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about all of her art, which she's going to give

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you information on how to see her art and be

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able to purchase her art. But we're going to talk

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about a lot of things. One of the things I

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wanted to talk to you about I was mentioning that

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you presented you that you actually did performing arts. Tell

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us something about the performing arts, and to tape some things.

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Hey, hi everyone, and thank you Angela for having me today.

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Oh my pleasure.

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Yeah. But visual not visual arts, but performing arts. I

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just sort of moved into it from a child. My

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mother used to always have my brothers and my sister

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and I always in church singing, you know, always ad

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that extra something that they would uh the church would have.

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Oh we got this group and this group and dis

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choir and this choir and this family sing, and these

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kids sing, so along with my brothers and sisters and

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sister we performed early on, you know, but only gospel.

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Who sick. My mother wasn't having anything except when she

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wasn't home. We didn't have any any what she could

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call worldly music in our home. We all only had gospel.

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We just had all kinds of gospel. And I love it,

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I love it. I love it. But you know, as

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a child, you know, you want to hear other stuff too,

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and you hear other stuff from other places. So when

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she wasn't around, trust and believe, we got all we

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needed from the other stuff in reverence of music, rhythm

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and blues, you know, of the times. And so as I,

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as an individual performing artist, got older, I started performing

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in high school, but in a choir that was called

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the Jefferson Acapella Choir, which was well known. And then

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they had an outside group which was the Leyshon Tours.

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And I was also a member of the Layschon Tours.

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So we were always performing and singing all types of music,

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show tunes, gospel, what they call spiritual, all kinds of music,

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you know, and every year we'd have big performerformances especially

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around Christmas time and the Hallelujah chorus and that song

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that you know, Hallelujah, Hallelujah. Yes, it was just but

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there was fifteen different harmonies going at once. It's just

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a beautiful thing. So I was always performing, you know,

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but I didn't do theater until after I had gotten

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out of college. I started doing theater with this local

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theater group called the Interstate Firehouse Country Center in Portland, Oregon,

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and also with Rosemary Allen's Black Theater Company that she

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had going at that time, and it was a phenomenal experience,

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and we did original performances, original works. We did Langston

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Hughes Simply Heavenly and the late Garland Lee Thompson Senior

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he directed that. He's all so from Portland, Oregon, but

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he lived in New York, so he would go back

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and forth from New York to Portland. He was one

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of the founders of Frank Severe Writers' Workshop in New

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York City at the time. He used to be one

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hundred and twenty fifth and fifth. I can't remember the

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others across street, but anyway, I just sort of gradually

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got into performing arts and then you know, doing speeches

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and writing, making short poems and essays and things like that,

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and I would start to perform them in small groups

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and things you know of that nature. But I didn't

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have any training, any professional training in the theater while

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I was going to UH school when I was in

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high school and college. But I got on the job

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training and trust and believe. Afterwards. I joined the Actors'

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Union in nineteen eighty eight, so I've been a member

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of the Actors Union for quite some time. I lived

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in New York for ten years during professional theater, and

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I I was involved with Intosaki Shane Gays a remount

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of the nineteen ninety five production for Colored Girls who

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Committed Suicide When Enough, and they got the Tony Award

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for it. So we did the remount of it and

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the past we all received our individual Adelco Awards, which

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is a very high prestigious award in reference to theaters,

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especially African American theater. You know, we have to we

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have to crown ourselves. We can always look for someone

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else to give us praise and give us about, you know,

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what we're doing from the other you know groups out

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there that people looked at the oscars and all of

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that and we're just for position, but uh, we better pay.

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If we don't have a seat at the table, we

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better make our own table.

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Nacan. Yes, absolutely absolutely, I.

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Think a little bit about it. But that's the gist

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of that.

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Oh no, no, not at all. When you were talking

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about being at church and things like that. Yeah, I

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remember we had to go and do our speeches and

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we had to sing in the choir. And I had

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two other sisters and we were called the Sharp Sisters,

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and we traveled around going to different conferences and meetings

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and stuff like that, singing. And I tell you, you just

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get pushed into things. It's like, okay, whatever you say.

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It wasn't like we had a choice.

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You had to.

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She said you're going to sing. You were going to sing,

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and we had a yeah, and we.

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Traveled around and you know, thought we would enjoyed it.

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Yeah, it was really great. So for listeners who may

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be less familiar, how would you describe the diversity of

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diaspora art. It's such a vast category. I mean we're

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talking about when we're talking about diaspora, I want to

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kind of say we're talking about, you know, areas of Africa,

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but we're talking about America. We're talking about the islands.

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We're talking about South America, We're talking about Mexico, we're

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talking about Philippines. We're talking about a huge area of

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peoples and everyone has their own culture. But you're the artist,

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you could give give a little better description.

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Well, people would tell me early on when I would,

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you know, would be presenting some of my work and stuff,

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and they would say, you know, this looks like something

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from Panginia or this is uh. Are you familiar with

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the ivory colts? Are you from? And they would ask

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me about different things Zimbabwe and Ghana and Nigeria, and

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this looks like that? And I said, I have never

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been to Africa, I said, but I have been around

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people from other countries. I mean Africans and Asians and

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and and and East Indians you know, and uh, Native

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Americans and and and I always was interested in their art,

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you know, and just and looking at it and seeing,

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you know, how they related to their particular cultures. And

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I could see me in all of it, something that

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I liked, something that drew me in. And I would

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be thinking, like, wow, that's nice. I really like that,

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you know, So I would, you know, I would copy uh,

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some people's style, and if it didn't work for me,

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it wasn't gonna work because the only thing that can

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come out of me, it is me. But I always

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wondered how certain works of our different types, of our

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different medias of our how how people would come to

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learn to do that and it would be spiritual for me.

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You know, I would see something, I'd say, I'm gonna,

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I'm gonna, I'm gonna paint that, And nine times out

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of ten, whatever I started out doing is not what

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it ended up as. I just had to let it flow.

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I had to let it be whatever it's gonna be,

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and it would always turn out to surprise me. And

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it was a journey. So I have fallen in love

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with the creative process in reference to the arts and

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in reference to where they came from, and in reference

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to our differences and our sameness in so many ways.

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And for me that's kind of the diaspora, especially with

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reference to the African diaspora, you know, me being from

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my ancestors from the Motherland, I have always felt something

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that that I wasn't getting in Portland, Oregon. That's where

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I was raised, born and raised in Portland, Oregon and

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moved to New York much later in my forties. But

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I always knew that there was more to us than

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I was seeing the media, other than you know, the

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stereotypical us in the media. And I always knew that

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the colors and things that that I was drawn to

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were just off to the off center from primary colors.

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They were red wasn't red. Red was a deep blood color,

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or orange was like a burnt orange, and yellow was

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like a mustard yellow for me. And that's what I saw,

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and so that's what I would gravitate towards when I

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would start to create something. And even as a small

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child of my my kindergarten teacher, when we would have

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you know, crayon times she would give us crayons and

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she would say, use every color in the box. So

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it was like every color, you know, So every color.

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I would always try to use every color in the box.

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You know. I don't care how big the box was

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or how small it was. I was going to use

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every color in the box to create something. Now I

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thought it before as a little child, but uh, it was.

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It had everything. Like I said, it had every color

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in the box. And a lot of times it didn't

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even make sense, but it made sense to me because

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I was creating and no one was saying that's not good,

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or you can do a little better, or you know,

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stay inside the lines. You know it was it was obstruction,

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but they gave us freedom to create. So I've always

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had that creative, you know, desire in me to make

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something outside of me and to present it.

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So you know, my sister, I have a sister, well,

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my oldest sister. She has this wonderful gift of seeing

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something and being able to write beautiful poetry. And then

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my other sister, she was just wonderful in designing art.

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And she could do art in painting, or she could

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do art with cloth, you know, putting cloth together. And

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and I just never ever got that. I don't know

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what it is. I never ever got that artistic. I

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tried to play instrum everybody. I just it's just just

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if there's a creativity in me, I don't know where

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it is. I've tried different things, but I just can't.

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And what we're doing now, we're communicating. It's what we're

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doing now. You got to because.

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I couldn't need to draw the line I got in

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trouble for not being able to I had a ruler

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and couldn't draw a line.

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That's okay. Everybody has a gift, and everybody doesn't have

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everybody else to get I.

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Know, I said, it's straight to me.

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Yeah, might up.

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I was lining and up and and still would end

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up crooking.

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So I just like, okay, my art teacher says, there

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are no accidents. There are just interesting mistakes that you

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create something from that, and so there are no accidents.

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I was like, I don't know, this looked pretty bad

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to me over here. So and I wouldn't get frustrated

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and I would stop and I would paint over the

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entire thing and start again on some you know, I

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didn't want to continue on something that was that my

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soul wasn't feeling. And see, that's what I realized when

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I'm working, that if I'm doing something and it's just

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not feeling good to me, or I get back and

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I look at it, because we as artists, we are

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our worst critics, and I said, I don't I'm not

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feeling this at all, and I will cover it up.

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It'd be totally something different from whatever I started it

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out to be. So but everybody has gifts. I don't

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care what people say this. Oh I can't act, I

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can't sing, I can't do that. But there are things

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that you can do that others can't do that I

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can't do. My mother, God rest her, so she had

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me doing taking piano lessons and I absolutely hated it.

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I did I just you know, and I could do

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the basics. I could do all of that, and I

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could go to the recitals and I could fumble through.

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But it was just like it was just torture to me.

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And then I would My mother brought up bought a piano,

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and my sisters just sat down and started playing singing.

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She would play sing if she played by ear beautiful.

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I was like, let her take the lesson. She said, no, no,

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you're you're going to take the lessons. You're going to

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teach her. No, she can play already. She didn't take lessons.

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My mother didn't understand that. But I said, we people

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are born with gifts.

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And I'm going after those gifts. Identifying and going after

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those gifts are really really important. Can you remember when

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you really got that drive or got that spark that

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you wanted to draw and do art and do expression

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to art.

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I remember when I wanted to do that. I was

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in college, but I had so many other courses and

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classes and things that what I wanted to do was

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just you know, take art and nothing else. But of

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course you can't do that, you know, you got recograce

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to whatever you're late and all those things. And I

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just said, well, you know what, I can't focus on this,

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you know. And I and it wasn't that I knew

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what I was doing. I just had a desire. I

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had a desire to be in art and be there

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all day long and learn from instructors and stuff. But

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I couldn't, so I didn't. And I didn't really pick

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up a brush again for twenty five years, really, oh

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twenty five years, right, And so it's been about twenty

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years now that i've actually after I retired, After I retired,

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after I moved to New York. I retired, and I

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moved to New York in ninety three, and I was

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in New York for almost ten years, and I was

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doing theater in music, but I could also also dibble,

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dabble in the mediums of art. But I didn't take classes.

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I just would do stuff, you know, at home, you know,

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and it was usually around whatever piece or that I

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was working with or whoever I was working with, and

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the theater, and you meet all these people and you

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see people from a different background Saints, African Americans, but

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from different backgrounds, you know, from very very poor to

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very very wealthy and everything in between. And me, I'm

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just like a sponge. I want to know it all.

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I want to know how did you come up? You know?

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I met one girl she had she was a freshman

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in college right along with me, and she had five

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kids already, and I was trying to figure out, girls,

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where are your children? And she said with my mom,

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she said, but I needed to go to college. And

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I was thinking to myself, I wonder if I could ever.

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I couldn't imagine having any kids and going to school.

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I just couldn't. She had five and she was a

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phenomenal person, and I was so in awe about her.

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I was like, you know, people are really different. You

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need to really dig into what people are like and

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stay open and has become communal with these people from

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all these places. My nephew would say, stop smiling at everybody,

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stop talking to everybody. You talk to everybody. My nephew.

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He already lived in New York and he told me,

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he says, take off the jewelry and chew gum. And

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because you always talking to people, you shouldn't be talking

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to people. And I was like, I'm gonna have to

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move to New York and become somebody else. Uh uh, girl.

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I talked to everybody and anybody, and it wasn't always

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a good thing I did. And so I don't know

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if I could answer when was that point that I

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actually just really started doing stuff. It's probably been really

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within the last ten years. Really, did I just yeah, yeah,

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when when.

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I see your artists like you started the ten years old,

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did you just like capture so much depth and personality?

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But that's probably how IM just communicating with so many

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different people on.

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Learning people, learning other artists and being around other artists

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and seeing how they would do. And I would think

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that it's absolutely absolutely beautiful. My art instructor that I

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have right now, his name is Jamal Jones and he

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is phenomenal. And you know, I just asked him everything

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and anything. Should I do this? Should I do that?

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Can I add this to that? And he would say, no,

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you can't use mogpoge. When you're using puffer, you can't

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uh puffer paint. You can't do this and you So

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I'm learning a lot of stuff that I didn't know

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that helps me in my creativity. Mm hmm. That I

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don't hear a long. I don't care how long it

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takes me to work to do a piece. I really don't.

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I just figured like it's done when it gets done.

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And sometimes a girl, I don't know exactly when it's done,

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but I'll stop and I'll go on to something else.

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Do you do you do you have a favorite artist

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or or a favorite type of art or or something

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that I aspires you Jonathan Green.

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I love his work. He is a phenomenal artist out

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of North Carolina and his work. I really was drawn

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to his work with his colors, how deep the colors,

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and they're always just off and they always speak to

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sort of a gulla geechee Africanism m hm uh or.

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I could see all of that, you know, but it's

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it was like country and and and and and different

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and a different sort of movement in his is the

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way he worked. That's Jonathan Green. I also am uh

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uh in awe with Charles Bibbs. I love his work.

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It is so detailed in the hands and and and

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and the way the he'll have a head tilting and

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he'll have four or five people with the same form.

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It was. It was like motion and on a canvas.

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You just look at the canvas and you know nothing

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is moving, but it's all moving. Ye. Just those are

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the artists that I gravitate to. Any artist really that

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uses all lot of color and a lot of movement

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in their work. Oh, I'm all in it. I'm like, Wow,

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that's beautiful, you know. And that's basically it. I had

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a friend that told me years ago, years ago ago,

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and then I was working on a piece, just just

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a piece of art, and he told me, he says,

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you use a lot of color and that's going to

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be real expensive down the line if you continue to

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do this, So you should you should find less different

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different colors. And I was absolutely insulted.

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I was that's what makes it beautiful, was all of

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the color, because it's all the moods, it's all of

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the emotions as all of the I mean, we're not singular.

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We have so much multiple things going on, a lot of

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an expression. That's kind of strange for somebody said don't

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use so much color.

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He said that he was another artist.

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Yeah, it was another.

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Artist, and I love his work. I do. But he said,

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I use so much color that if you know it's

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going to be expensive, I don't care how expensive it's

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going to be. If I need it, I'm gonna get it. Yeah,

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whatever it is I need, and I'm going to use

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the colors that come from my experience as opposed to

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something that you'll see. And I don't think he wasn't

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saying it in a negative way. I maybe he was,

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but anyway, it bothered me. I was like, well, so

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I'm not going to use a color that I feel

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that I need to use right now because it can

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be expensive. That's ridiculous. So that I left it alone.

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I didn't think another minute of it. I kept right

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on doing what I was doing. Like my kindergarten told me.

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My kindergarten teacher told me to use every crayon in

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the box.

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And beautiful too.

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I'm enjoying it.

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Yeah, yes, And like I said, that's what's so wonderful

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about it is seeing all of the colors. I love

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to look at the art. That's you know, whether it's

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material or jewelry or anything. It's generally just filled with colors.

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And if you go outside and you walk through a

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garden or anything, it's full of all of these colors.

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So it's it's just a creative spirit that you know.

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Some people have the talent of drawing it down and

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actually putting it on a canvas, and it looks like

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something that was created with real reality and emotion. And

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you can feel, you know, the wind blowing. I can

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even kind of hear the bird stirping everything you know

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in it because.

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Emotion in it.

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Yeah, yeah, it helps to, yeah, really make you feel

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because I see your art. This one here makes me laugh,

462
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and then this one here, Oh, it just kind of

463
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.440
draws you out. Oh, and then this one, Oh, I

464
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.440
want to go travel there. And so I mean that's

465
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.599
what that's the purpose of it is to bring out

466
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.960
an emotion and bring feelings. You know, maybe you're just

467
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.720
having a hard time or whatever. You see some art,

468
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:31.799
you see a play, you see some artistic expression. It

469
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.599
puts you in a different mood or maybe even changes

470
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:41.960
your emotion at the time or something like that. It's

471
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.000
kind of I think it's just wonderful people that have

472
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.880
that capability of putting there, putting all that thought and

473
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:55.599
all of that emotion and expression down on camp Feld

474
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.519
or however they do. It is. It is and it

475
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:09.519
absolutely speaks to to everyone, not just you. It speaks

476
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.440
to everyone. I see, you know, I see myself in

477
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.920
the kitchen with the women that are in the kitchen,

478
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.720
some of your paintings that have it in there, and

479
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.559
doing the dishes. I remember that, and you know I can.

480
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.599
It takes you back to the times when you were

481
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.599
young and laughing and having fun and surrounded by your

482
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.680
your parents and aunties and things. So it's just going

483
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:39.319
back and just letting it just take you to another place.

484
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.359
That's what That's what I see happening every time I'm

485
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:49.079
looking at the art. Yeah, when you decide when you're

486
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.079
getting ready, you say, you just begin working, But what

487
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.480
you started out with it doesn't end up that way.

488
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.279
Is it just kind of like like a crescendo notes

489
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.160
or something that just got to speak to you and

490
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.880
just just keep go going Or how do you get there?

491
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.200
Okay? And how I get there is still a mystery

492
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:13.880
to me. But I had a picture, a picture that

493
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.279
I had done years ago, an art piece of a

494
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.880
vase with flowers. That was it. It was a vase

495
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:28.839
with flowers, and I said, okay, that's nice. And I

496
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.279
left it alone for ten years and one day I

497
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.240
looked at that and I said, I think I'm going

498
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:40.240
to do something with this vase. And the vase was

499
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.119
half of the half of the canvas actually itself. The

500
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.759
vase was here and the flowers are here, and I

501
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.279
just black. I just painted over it, painted all over it.

502
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:55.640
And I created a face, a head just ahead, an

503
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.480
African woman head and a neck and I said, okay,

504
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.359
just ahead, no eyes, no lips, no nothing, you know.

505
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.440
And I said, okay, this is cool, this is good.

506
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.880
So I didn't know what I was going to do.

507
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.119
But I made this vase, this this vase into a face.

508
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.599
And then there was like ten flowers that were sticking

509
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.719
out of the vase and they were just plain little

510
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:28.159
you know, flowers, nothing, nothing exotic or anything. And I said,

511
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.360
I'm going to add more flowers. I'm going to make

512
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.400
these flowers that are here, I'm going to make them bigger.

513
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.719
I'm going to make them with more color. I'm going

514
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.199
to give them more greenery. I'm going to do this

515
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.679
and so I just have this this head with this

516
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.440
these flowers, these big flowers, and then I started doing

517
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.679
eyes and a nose and a mouth. I didn't like it,

518
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.400
so I painted over and I did eyes, different type

519
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.639
of eyes, African eyes, you know, bigger lips, you know,

520
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.000
wider noses. And then I next thing I knew, I

521
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.960
had a whole different picture. And it's the piece I

522
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:13.360
call call it her. She's holding a cigar and she's

523
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.360
just being in her grandness and her greatness. And then

524
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.400
I decided a week or two afterwards to give her

525
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:24.760
locks deadlocks throughout the weave them through the flowers that

526
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.840
were in there. And then I decided maybe a little

527
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.920
time after that. She had her shoulder toward the front,

528
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:33.679
and I said, I think I'm gonna put a bird

529
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.599
on the shoulder. There's another artist and I can't remember

530
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.119
her name. She passed away of maybe about twenty years ago.

531
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.480
She was a young woman too, and in every piece

532
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.199
that she did, she always had a bird somewhere in it.

533
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.840
Somewhere in her piece, no matter what the piece was,

534
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.480
there was going to be a bird somewhere in it.

535
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.320
So I put the bird on her shoulder, and I

536
00:35:54.440 --> 00:36:00.679
call that piece her, and it's it's in my website. Actually,

537
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.760
I have it here, but I don't know if I

538
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:04.360
could pick it up and show it to you. If

539
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:19.039
I could maybe maybe, well give me a hot second. Okay,

540
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:21.840
I don't know what you can see it? Can you

541
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:22.599
see this? Oh?

542
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:29.320
I can see it. It's gorgeous. Yes, right, that's something

543
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:28.079
that I.

544
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.519
Used to be a vase and I ended and I

545
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:37.960
you know, and I gave her a neck and then

546
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:42.920
the flowers were so thin, but I made them, you know, different.

547
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:47.280
So anyway, this is that piece and it's called Her,

548
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.880
and I just really finished it within the last maybe

549
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.159
month or so. But it was a vase, it was

550
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:58.039
a plane. I wish I could show you to you,

551
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:04.000
but it's actually is on my website too. But I

552
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:08.519
don't know how. Thank you, Thank you so much. I

553
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:17.079
don't know how how that happens in the creative process

554
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.760
when you start off, well, when I start off doing something,

555
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.800
I'm thinking I'm going to do one thing or and

556
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.639
it turns out to be something totally different. I never

557
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.239
would have thought that's what that would have been.

558
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:32.880
But that's when I works from a base to all

559
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.639
of that. That is just as she has a cigar

560
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.960
with ringlets and things.

561
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.159
And I like to just imagine the possibility of a thing.

562
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.039
You know, you get through and you think, like like

563
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.599
I added things along the way. I didn't just say

564
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.079
I'm going to paint a lady with a bird on

565
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.920
her shoulder smoking a cigar with flowers in her head.

566
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.960
That was never and that is never how it works

567
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:00.320
for me.

568
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:02.960
Just some people's head moving.

569
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.000
It kept moving.

570
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:11.440
Go ahead, Yeah, I guess that's how you express you're expressing,

571
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:15.920
or you what got in touch with who her was

572
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:21.800
and started expanding her personality. You know, they you know,

573
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:22.800
that's what happened.

574
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.239
And I would still do some more, but that I

575
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:34.360
ran out of canvas. So in my mind, I just think,

576
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.679
in my mind, I have other canvases, and I thought

577
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.639
about creating an extension of the work from here to

578
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.920
this is still that part of that same canvas, but

579
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.440
it's on another canvas, but it's an extension of this

580
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.880
work of this work, and do it on the other

581
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.480
side also, and maybe even at the top, and before

582
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.320
long it would just be a whole wall unit of

583
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.719
one picture. That's just how I think. I don't know

584
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.519
if I'm going to do that I'll tell you that's

585
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.039
how my mind goes when I'm looking at certain works.

586
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.960
And yeah, yeah, that way.

587
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.239
And you know what when you I use different type.

588
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.599
I use a lot of acrylics and I use puffer paint.

589
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.239
And then I'll also, uh, if I see something that

590
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:32.000
I like, uh, like plants and Michael's you know, with

591
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.079
flowers with leaves and things like that, I'll buy them

592
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:36.960
and I'll cut them off and I will attach them

593
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:42.519
in my pictures. It gets into different depths. Yeah, and

594
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.199
so I did one that was a fox. It was

595
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.880
it was a fox, but I didn't like it, so

596
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.320
it just turned it out. It turned into a deer,

597
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.239
and I have her. Her name is Doretha in the garden.

598
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.480
In the garden it said deer. And and my daughter

599
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.960
in law said, I thought that was a fox at first.

600
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.079
I said yeah, but I didn't like it as a fox.

601
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.280
I wanted it to be something else because I wanted

602
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.480
to put flowers and plants and make it really a

603
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.440
happy thing. And a fox looks like they're looking for

604
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:20.519
something to me to get into. And I wasn't feeling that.

605
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.800
I was like no, So my daughter in law, she

606
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.599
just sits back and goes like okay. And then also,

607
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.440
you know, you can find things in thrift stores. I

608
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:37.639
do all the time thrift stores and recreate them into

609
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.840
something else that you may not have thought of, and

610
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:44.960
then as you go along it becomes something else. I've

611
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.679
done that with several things that found things that I

612
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:53.880
found in thrift stores and stuff like that. So and

613
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.239
just keep finding.

614
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.880
On new way make journey I want to get.

615
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.960
But I haven't tried that. But I want to get

616
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.960
into sculpting. That's what I want to do.

617
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.960
That's and I will.

618
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.039
Trust and believe I will. I just don't know when,

619
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:16.719
and I don't I don't put pressure on myself to

620
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.719
do anything anymore, not at this stage in my life,

621
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:20.360
you know.

622
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.920
Yeah, yeah, and I and I like that. Mm hmmm,

623
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.960
mm hmmm. Well, I know I've gone to museums and

624
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:34.039
galleries and different things like that, and they have different

625
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.960
shows and it's based on you know, everyone's taste. Mh

626
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.400
Do you you know, do you think museums and galleries

627
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.880
are playing a role in promoting more informed understanding of

628
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:59.360
the diaspora expression, you know, African American expression, you know, uh,

629
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.760
just okay, I only think.

630
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.360
So, but I only think so in certain areas like

631
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.440
you have a like the Schamberg in New York. You know,

632
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.440
they they are about us, our work are It's a

633
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.559
full diaspa of us and where we come from in

634
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:25.599
our art work and forms that are shown there that

635
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.639
may not get seen in another place. But it's kind

636
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:34.199
of hard, I think. Uh. On the curator side, I

637
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.079
have a couple of friends that are curators and they're

638
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.039
constantly working, constantly working trying to put on either a

639
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.639
one person show, which I think is awesome, but most

640
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:51.480
shows have five or six different art artists and a

641
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.679
nimic and those ones that I truly go to and

642
00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:01.159
the ones that I'm involved in, and also offee shops

643
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.639
and weekend pup tent put up tents and things and

644
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.639
show your work. But it's all in reference to the museum.

645
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:12.880
It's always a waiting list. It's going to be a

646
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.760
waiting list, and then they're really gonna pick, you know,

647
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:20.800
from maybe three or four artists or shows that they do.

648
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.119
Some of them are traveling shows that they do every year,

649
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:28.920
and you know they are locked in, and uh, it's

650
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.119
just kind of hard. I don't I don't really know

651
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.679
how they they do it on that and I'm just

652
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.639
on this side trying to get my work seen, and

653
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:42.480
it's it's it's sometimes it's really a difficult because you've

654
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.079
got to do something. They're having something that's just a

655
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.519
week a weekend. So you've got to get your stuff

656
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:49.679
in there up. You've got to get it like you

657
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.000
need it to be. It has to go. Then it's over.

658
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:53.559
You've got to get it down. You've got to pack

659
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.199
it up. You've got to go to the next thing,

660
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.280
or you take it back home and use the story

661
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.320
or you're hanging back on the wall or what ever.

662
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.159
Is just a lot of work, it really is, And

663
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.159
that's part I don't.

664
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.559
Okay, since you bring in your art, so tell our

665
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:16.440
listeners how they can view your art and purchase her art?

666
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:17.719
Where do they contact you?

667
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:23.639
Okay, I'm gonna I don't know if I were, I

668
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.960
thought I could type it in here, but I don't

669
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.840
see where I'm tell you that. But my my website

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679
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.480
So anyone, if you look down in the little corner there,

680
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.920
it has a little chat thing where you can type, well, yes,

681
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.199
I see, you can just type that there. Well, I know,

682
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:46.639
I know that it's like music and everything else, art

683
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.079
comes from inside. It comes from the heart. It comes

684
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.239
from the spirit and just being able to have that

685
00:45:53.400 --> 00:46:00.079
talent or the courage to put those thoughts on, you know,

686
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:07.280
down on canvas or whatever the motive is that's being used.

687
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:11.239
I mean that within itself, it is just you know,

688
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.840
that takes a lot of bravery. But I know there

689
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.760
are a lot of creative people out there that have

690
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:23.239
artistic capabilities, and whether it be writing poetry or making music,

691
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:32.000
or doing art or sculptures or you know, just different things,

692
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.000
writing poetry, just different things. I just want to encourage

693
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.719
those that have those creative abilities. Go after your dream,

694
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:48.840
go after what makes you happy, go after which fulfills

695
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:54.400
your life. You will be able to monetize in the future,

696
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.039
but just do what makes you feel good, whatever it is.

697
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.119
Because you've got a long time you have spend working

698
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:08.519
and making money, let it be. Let it be some

699
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.440
way that you are enjoying yourself as you are doing that,

700
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:19.039
and that will be. That will be how it can happen.

701
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:25.119
But it's yeah, yeah, it's just a wonderful thing. It's

702
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just great listening to you talk about all of the

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art that you have and all the art that you've

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created and all the art that you've done. One of

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the things I also wanted to do to say, like

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I said, I know, I want you to know that

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I personally and everyone that I show your art too,

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absolutely loves your art. So we want you to continue

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to make those beautiful, vibrant, colorful pieces that talk to

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us that and and that tells our stories. And like

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you said it, there's there's some of them that display

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happiness and bring laughter. There's some that brings tears. There's

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sum that brings just enormous joy. I see them in

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the choir, clapping and dancing, and it's like I remember

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that I grew up and then I see them out

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in the desert, you know, and and stand you know,

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with their hands raised. And so every emotion you have expressed,

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every emotion that we who are observing, we appreciate. So

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I just want to I want to say that that

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we just appreciate you. We appreciate you expressing how we feel.

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We all don't have the courage to put it down,

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but you're putting it down for us. You're speaking for us,

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and thank you for being our voice. We we really

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appreciate you.

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Honored. I am so honored. I just really I'm just

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grateful that I have this gift and trust and believe

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it is from God. And how to give all the

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phrase because I always have to look at certain things

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and I say, well, Lord, I'm done with this, and

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then I'll you know, I'll look at it and I go,

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well maybe not, and I'll just be like, well, you know,

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whatever whatever I do, I'm going to do it through

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spiritual and through love and through emotion, through what I see,

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through what what what occurs in life with other people.

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You know that that I'm drawn to that I think

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I need to put that on canvas somehow. And I

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call myself an art storyteller because I want is to

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tell a story, you know, so that you can look

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at it see that Okay, that's what that is. Or

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of course you know, people see different things because that's

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that's just art.

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But that's some that see, Yeah, I see a story

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in it. And that's the part that I love. You

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always tell a story. Well, I just want to thank

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you for being on the show today and sharing your

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gift with us and with all those that are going

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to continue to appreciate what you are doing. And we

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just thank you for being here on a Sharp Outlook.

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We thank you that have tuned in be sure to

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like it and to also subscribe, and to also share

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this with others that you may know that just loves

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00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:40.159
good art and go out and check out Brenda's website

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00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.639
and see what she has. Again, thank you for joining

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us on a Sharp Outlook. And we're here every Monday

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eleven am Eastern time, eight am Pacific time, and as

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usual I want to say to you, stay tuned till

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next week and whatever you do, stay informed. I want

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