Nov. 3, 2025

How to Pay for College

How to Pay for College
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The financial aid process begins by completing the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA). What are the main sources students and families can use to fund college tuition and how can you maximize financial aid? Learn more about How to apply for scholarships, How to Win Scholarships, when to get started, what to expect from financial aid Choosing an Affordable College. The specific combination of funding sources varies by family income, student's academic record, and type institution.

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Hello, and thank you for tuning in to a Sharp

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Outlook on P four HD Radio and talk or TV.

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I am Angela Sharp, your host our arm chair discussions

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with industry experts will give you the steps, tools and

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information to be successful in business and to prepare you

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to be your best self. Hello, I'm Angela Sharp, and

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welcome to a Sharp Outlook. Do you have a student

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that will be graduating next year in June or maybe May,

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or do you have one that's in the eleventh grade

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that might be soon graduating. Do they have a dream

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to go to college and do you have the financing

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to be able to help them to go to college. Well,

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that's what we're going to talk about today, how to

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pay for college so that your student can go to

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college and live their dream. What are the main sources

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students and families can use to fund college tuition, and

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how can you maximize financial aid For many the financial

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aid process begins by completing the free application for Federal

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student aid, but there are a lot of different options

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that are out there, and our guest today is very

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knowledgeable about that and he's going to help us be

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able to discover all the different ways to be able

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to get funding an aid for your student's college tuition,

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how to apply for scholarships, how to win scholarships, win

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does get started, how to get started, and choosing an

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affordable college. Students and families use a variety of sources

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to pay for college, the tuition, personal income savings, scholarships, grants,

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and loans. The specific combinations of funding sources varies by

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family income, and the student's academic record is really important

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and the type of institution that they're wanting to attend.

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I want to bring doctor Stephen Jones to our show

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so that we can talk about this. We had doctor

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Jones on back in July talking about how your student

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can study and be able to get better grades and

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be able to pass their tech. Well, today this is

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the now that they're passing the test, and memorizing their

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information and ready to go to college. Now we need

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to inform you parents how to help your student be

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able to get into college as we know. Doctor Stephen

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Jones is the Associate Dean for Student in College of

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Engineering and Villanova University. Is a succesful author, speaker, and

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a college readiness and student retention expert. Doctor Jones is

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currently the president of SAJ Publishing. Is also the associat

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Dean of Student and Strategic Programs in the College of Engineering.

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Doctor Jones WelCom sharp out, I guess I could still

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say good morning to everybody.

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I think, Yeah, this is a wonderful topic.

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It's always good to talk about how to pay for

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college for me because I want to try to send

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as many college students of college as possible, and it

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is possible. One of the things that I think it

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should be clear that this whole idea of funding college

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doesn't start when you get to high school.

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That it should start.

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Early, and when your child is born, you should have

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thoughts about how I'm going to pay for college, where

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I'm going to invest. There are different resources that you

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can pay put money into an account starting that early,

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and it'll accumulate over time so that by the time

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we get to high school, you have some pool of

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funding to think about. And I think this is important

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because a lot of times, especially in the African American community,

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when kids get into middle school, children get into middle school,

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the parents start telling them, I don't have money to

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send you to college. I don't know how I'm going

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to do this, and so just by sending that message,

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it can delay a child's interest in even going further.

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So one of the things I would like to say

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today is to the parents, don't tell tell your child

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that you don't have enough money. There are over six

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thousand colleges in the United States, both four year colleges

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and two year colleges, and we just need to find

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and find the right one for you, the right one

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that fits you and your income situation, so that you

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can be successful at this goal. And I think hopefully

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it'll start today.

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Yes, absolutely, yeah. And that's what's so important about that, because,

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like you said, of a child, here's you tell them,

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I'm not going to have the money to send you

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to college. It's just going to well, it's gonna they're

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gonna have a downer, and it's going to make them

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difficult to even continue to focus or even be energized,

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because that's you know, stepping into their dream and saying

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you're not going to be able to have that dream.

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You're not going to be able to do the things

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that you've always wanted to do since you were six

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years old. And so, yeah, please don't tell those children

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something like that, because there are options. You may not

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have it all, but there are other sources. Let's find

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out what the combinations can be. They help you do

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that so that you don't have to have that talk

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with your children. So tell us about some of the

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different options that are out there.

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Yes, so everyone is allowed to apply for the Federal

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Financial Aid that's FAFSA. I know the policies around how

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much of that money is available these days has changed,

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but there still is money available from the federal government,

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and many states actually use that FASSA form the information

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that it provides to determine how much aid that state

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is going to give to you as well. So if

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you ignore the fats of the form, you may be

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missing out on opportunities. They get funding from the federal

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government as well as from your state because they're using

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that form to determine how much money they're going to

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give to you overall. So that's kind of the foundation

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of beginning the whole process. And one of the things

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I would say to you is talk to your school

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counselor about that form. Your school counselor might have sessions

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at the school on completing the financial aid form. I

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know here in Philadelphia we have sessions all over the

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city around how to complete that form. We have something

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called a Philadelphia College Roundtable that helps with filling out

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that and we educate others on how to help those

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individuals that fill out their form. So there's always someone

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out there to help. You just have to sometimes dig

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into meeting with the counselor at your school or the

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vice principle at your school to find out what resources

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are available. And I will say also, don't wait until

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junior year to get started getting this information. So the

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first year that you're in high school, used to start

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gathering all this information about the FABS of form, the requirements,

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the information that you're going to have to provide, the

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information that your students is going to have to provide

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if their school has a regular financial aid workshop at

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the school. Start going ninth grade, tenth grade, eleventh grade.

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So it'll gather so much information on what you need

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to do to get access to that information.

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And I think that really works.

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It keeps you on task with how things are changing,

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rather than waiting to the senior year and now, oh

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I thought I needed this, but I needed that to

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find these funds that are available to you.

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Yeah, that's important. I know when I was a little

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girl a long time ago, I was in the sixth

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grade and knew I wanted to go to college. But

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back then, we had a lot of counselors. We had

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a lot of college prep. They started talking to us

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about that in the sixth grade, and so we had

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a lot of motivation that was going on. You know

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back in those years. I don't know whether they have that,

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like I said, with the funding and things, some of

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them don't even have, you know, counselors anymore. But you

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know there has to be you know, right now there's

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so much tech. Go look online or something and find out,

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but you know that that information is available.

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I also would say go to your local state legislator's

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office and find out what kind of resources and information

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that they know. In Pennsylvania, we have FEA, which is

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our state federal financial aid, but they also coordinate with

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FASA and so they work together. They have seminars throughout

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the state, so you maybe go into your state legislator

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or senator's office or counselor on person's office you can

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find out what's available as well.

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Yeah, the fund. You know, information, Like I said, information,

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information is power, and the more you know, the more

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power you have to be able to make good decisions

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because you get all of the data that you need

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to be able to analyze and come up with a solution.

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What's the total cost of attendance and what expenses does

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it cover? What's the cost now? I know it was

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really a lot cheaper when I went to school. What's

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the cost now?

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I mean the cost pushing room and board can go

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anywhere from twenty five thousand to ninety five thousand for

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one year in college, and so it is a big

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investment that you have to consider what.

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Is affordable to you.

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The colleges are supposed to give you an idea of

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what amount of aid that you're going to get each year.

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If a college does not do that, then you risk

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the possibility of the second year you thought you had

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x amount of money and now it's changed in the

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second year. So have that conversation with the Financial Trade

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Office about how much they can tell you about what's

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going to happen over the next four years. You know,

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will there be increases that go along with the increases intuition,

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because you know, tuition can increase three to five percent

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per year while you're in college. So if you've gotten

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a certain amount of a certain amount of financial aid

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and then tuition increases, but that financial aid doesn't increase,

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you have to make up the difference, and you have

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to know what is your true ability to make that difference.

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Sup Will they tell you that you know when you

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first supply, Will they be informed enough to be able

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to tell you, Yeah, there might be some increases, but

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this aid that you're receiving right now will not, you know,

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increase proportionately.

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If that's the way that they operate at the financial

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aid level. It will be determined by how the institution is.

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There are some institutions that are not raising tuition right away.

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They may wait one or two years. But the odd

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thing about that students feel that when you don't raise tuition,

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the quality is going down. So there's a delicate balance

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OF's what you want to do with that, because you

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don't want to lose students because they can no longer

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afford your institution, But they also don't want to send

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the wrong message.

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Is there some way you can kind of negotiate while

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you're you know, discussing, they aid, and get a rate

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lock in?

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Well, you can, Well, there's certain different types of scholarships,

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so this scholarship will determine what that will be throughout

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the time that you're in school. So you're right, I mean,

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it would lock in. Maybe the most that we're going

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to give is thirty thousand dollars a year. You have

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to come up with a difference whatever that might be.

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But I would say always make sure whatever the scholarship is,

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whatever they aid, is that you have documentation, that you

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have proof to what was said, what was committed, so

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that those things don't go away. You know exactly what

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they're going to be, and you can prepare for the

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subsequent years and how you're going to be able to

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fund your education. So it again, it just depends on

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the institution. A lot of institutions have something called the

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Presidential Scholarship and the presidential scholarship pays for everything. It

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pays for housing, it pays for tuition. There might be

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a stipend that goes along with it on a monthly basis.

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Those are for the top top school students who applied

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to various schools that are able to receive that presidential

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But it's a wonderful resource, and again it depends on

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the university's funding. Place like Penn State might have thirty

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of them, whereas a private school might only have ten

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of them, So it just depends on the institution. This

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year we started considering everyone for scholarships. Used to be

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you had to apply for it. Now we're just looking

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at your profile and your information to determine who we

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want to bring in and maybe interview for these scholarships.

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do they also pay for, you know, additional fees like

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specific courses that might be something wasn't part of the

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regular plan, but you realize now you have additional courses

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that you want to take because of the path you're going.

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Would that it cover that? You know, would it cover

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you know, lab fees or books? Food?

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you can take per semester.

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If you're within that range or whatever the maximum is

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at that institution, they're not going to charge you extra

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for courses because they're not even going to allow you

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to take more than that amount of course. Is why,

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because they don't want you to fail. They have a

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history of a student with this amount of courses will

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have can still have success, and they want to overburden

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the student with too many credits where they don't have

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enough time to even study, so they're kind of maximizing

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that out for each semester. Okay, And I have actually

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told some students I'm sorry, no, you go ahead now.

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I wouldn't say I have depending on the student's circumstances

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if they're struggling with a semester, I have told students

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to maybe consider dropping down to four classes instead of

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five just for that one semester to work their way through,

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because you'd rather get through the semester without having a

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failing grade on your transcript than to have a failing

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grade and now your scholarship is at jeopardy because you

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didn't maintain the GPA. And that's another point. I guess

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that some scholarships require that you must maintain at three

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point oh to keep the scholarship.

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why I say even you know, their academics is very

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important to be considered when they are considering what school

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they're going to and you know, what kind of aid

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they're going after. There's so much more funds available for

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students that are in the four point o range than

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maybe the two point five range, and so it's very

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important to you know, get that, get that academic and

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get that, you know, get your scores, get your test,

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you know, do what you can to make sure that

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you are a student that is achieving excellence because it

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opens so many more doors for you than if you're

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just average and just trying to get by. So that's

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that's really really important.

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I would say that don't so some students need to

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start at community college. If you know that your child

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has a two point five two point seven, it might

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be better for them because you're looking at their study habits,

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you're looking at how much they invest in reading their books.

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You know your child, as your child can fully engaged

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in the learning process, and you don't want to spend

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forty thousand dollars for your student not to make it

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through the first semester in college, so it's not a

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bad thing.

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Plus, it's more affordable for them to.

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Start at a community college and then transfer into a

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four year institution. There may be some agreement. For example,

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Community College of Philadelphia has an agreement with Temple University,

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and all the credits that they take at the Community

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College of Philadelphia will transfer into Temple, so they only

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have two additional years after they earn their associate degree.

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That's a worthwhile way of investing because you want to

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see whether your child will actually put forth the effort

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to be successful in college.

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Right yeah, especially if during high school they really weren't

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as focused as they may have been, didn't have good

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study habits, didn't have the maturity. I mean, to be honest,

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some of them just really have spent too much time

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maybe clowning around and didn't realize, you know what, this

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is a good time. It's a fun time, but you're

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getting ready to make a step into adulthood, and now

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you really need to start getting serious about the future

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because you're going to be older a lot longer than

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this moment right now, and I don't think you know,

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a lot of youth understand. You hit that age twenty one,

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you've grown and all of the pressures of adulthood, you know,

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comes down on you, and you haven't thought about it,

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you haven't planned for it, you haven't worked towards it,

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and then there you are not knowing what to do

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and just you know, making a lot of bad decisions.

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So you need to understand when you come in as

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a sophomore in high school, you have three more steps

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to becoming an adult and getting into a situation where

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you need to be making decisions for the rest of

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your life. Selecting a career. You should be thinking about

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that a lot sooner than senior. Great, you really need

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to be thinking about it because you are stepping into

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and that's when things become serious and you don't get

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as many considerations that, oh, they're just a kid. No,

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they don't think about that anymore. Now you're an adult

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and need to be making better Does some schools offer

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merit based scholarships?

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on your your GPA from high school, your overall grades,

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activities that you've been involved with, a lot of leadership

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kinds of things. We want to see students who can

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be leaders within our organizations on campus. Volunteerism is big

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a lot of times when they're looking at volunteer activities

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of students who are applying. We've had students who started

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their own organization and supported other young people. So anytime

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you kind of take initiative, start your own organization or

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start your own business, things like that stand out for

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the institutions. One of the things that we're in the

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business of is making sure students graduate. We are evaluated

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from our crediting agency in terms of how students are

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graduating from our institutions, and also we are competing in

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a way against other institutions in terms of their house

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students are graduating from their institutions. So we want to

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make sure that we're giving you the best experience that

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we possibly can while you're while you're enrolled at our institutions.

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Okay, one of the things is you're applying for a scholarship,

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is there are there requirements to renew that scholarship. Most

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most of you know you don't have to think about

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it anymore m hm.

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So the financial aid will have office will have control

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of what's happening with that scholarship for the most part,

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and they will know whether there are certain requirements, whether

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there's a GPA requirement or some kind of volunteer requirement

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that goes along with it. They'll be aware of that

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and keep track of that. So it's important to follow

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whatever guidelines. The guidelines of a scholarship will be given

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to you upfront in the expectation. Now, some scholarships, if

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you are fall below the GPA that they require, they'll

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have like a probation semester and where they'll give you

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an opportunity to work at it better and so that

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you can improve your GPA. So how do you improve

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your GPA? You must have better study habits. You must

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manage your time better. You must get help from your

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professors when you need help. You need see if there's

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a We have something called learning support services at our university.

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A lot of university have something similar where they want

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to show you how to study, how to organize, how

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to plan your day. I say this is so important

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because I recently had a class of our new students

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and I asked them how many have a daily planner?

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I would say only five percent of the class had

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a daily planner. So I'm like, how did you get

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through high school without a daily planner? So I just

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want to highly recommend to those who are listening to

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have your child have a daily planner. It can be

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something that they hold in their hand I get minds

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from Staples, or it can be something that you have

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electronically that will give you notices. But having something that

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tracks you how you're using your time, I think is

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really important. It shows that you're organized and you're planning

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for your success.

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Yeah, and believe it or not, it's something that that's

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a habit you're going to be using for the rest

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of your life. Whether you're at work, whether you have

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your own business, whatever it is, you're going to have

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a planner because you're going to be planning your day

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for the success of your own business. You're going to

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be planning the day of meeting deadlines on your job.

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But you're always going to be using a planner for

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all of the meetings and all of the do dates

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and all of the people you need to call. So

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that's a habit that they probably already have. They're planning

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to call this friend, this friend, this friend, watch TikTok.

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This time, you just need to grow up your planner

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so that it has, you know, some things that are

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going to give you the values you need so you

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can succeed in your study habits while you're in school.

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Because it is the foundation and the basic of your

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very future, your future job, your future career, your future direction.

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It's not something you take lightly. It's a decision you're

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making for the rest of your life. Now, some of

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us we take paths two or three different ones, but

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you have the basic foundation. It gives you the you know,

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the little stems that you can go in different directions,

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but you at least have to set up that foundation.

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You know.

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I was looking at the number of you know, some

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of the the family contributions that are there, and I

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was looking at in the years between twenty three and

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twenty four, rental income and savings had to cover and

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estimated forty eight percent of the college cost for their families,

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and then they had to borrow. So parents need to

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get engaged. Also, like you said, don't start when they

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are sophomore in high school. Start Okay, maybe the eighth birthday,

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tenth birthday, but you need some people all to start

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a funding you know when the child is born, you know,

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when you're just putting away some money every month to

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be prepared for that college. So that is something you know,

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maybe you parents don't know about young parents that are

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that are out there listening. You know, can how does

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that work? You know what kind of vehicles is it?

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I know they used to have college insurance plans where

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you can.

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Yeah, they have something called the five twenty nine plan.

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Most states have this where you can invest in this

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five twenty nine plan not have to worry about taxes

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and accumulate money to save for your child. And so

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I would suggest everyone takes a look at that for

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their state and how they can invest in that so

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they can have a next stage that's developing over time.

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And you know, if you have a lot of schools

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have state schools, so they can use that toward any school,

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whether it's state school or private college or they all

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have ways that they can accept that money to ensure

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that it's helping to pay for your student's education. And

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one of the other things I was as a tip

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that I would say to the parents and the students

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is to have a scholarship day. And that's like one

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hour each week that's a scholarship time. That's when your

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son or daughter is doing a scholarship search, sending out letters,

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meeting deadlines for the scholarships, organizing their schedule if they

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have interviews for the scholarships. So I think it's important

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to have like one set aside day and hour that

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you're focused in on these scholarships because a lot of

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students lose money because they don't have a specific day

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in time. They don't apply to the scholarships on time,

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and they don't have time to do the essays and

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so forth. So if you set aside that time, you're

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in a better position.

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I was wondering are there still because I know when

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I went to school, we had grants that you could

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apply for, so I was able to go to school

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grant and those were funds that you know, if you

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met the academic requirements, you didn't have to pay back.

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So do they still have grants?

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They still have grants, and also they have alumni who

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donate to the institution and that they're able to use

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those funds for grants. So a lot of times those

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grants are in specific departments like our business department or

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our fine arts department or our engineering department or nursing department.

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They have their own grants that they're able to give

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out that's named after someone literally that's giving them money

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or put they've put five hundred thousand dollars into an account,

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and the interest off of that pays for the ongoing

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student grants that go out throughout the years. So it

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just depends on that. Sometimes states have their own grants.

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So the main thing is meeting the requirements and knowing

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that there is a requirement and that that does involve

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having a calendar of how you're going to do it.

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Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. So there are there are resources,

473
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.079
you know, so that people are saying, well, I'm never

474
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.960
going to be able to go to college, there's opportunities,

475
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.119
there's funds, and just think you're leaving money on the table.

476
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.160
Nobody leaves money on the table. You know, if there's

477
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.400
money there, go get it, you know, don't let it

478
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.279
just sit there and just go away. Go get the

479
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.279
money and let it, you know, be able to make

480
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:39.319
your life so much better and help you help you

481
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:40.880
meet those streams that you want.

482
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:43.079
Well.

483
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.240
One of the reasons why I wrote my scholarship book

484
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.480
was because I realized a lot of people don't know

485
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.640
how to get started and following and finding scholarship books.

486
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.240
So it was kind of my catalyst, and I did

487
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.720
seminars and so forth on these topics, and I wanted

488
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.839
to provide with a resource. So the book actually has

489
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.359
one hundred different scholarship websites that you can go to,

490
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.640
and it's a great resource that way.

491
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:14.200
Yeah, the first time I talked to you, if you well,

492
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.119
back in twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, I got your

493
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:22.400
books on studying and then the one on getting you know,

494
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.160
some financial aid and things like that. And well, I

495
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.000
don't have that book anymore because I gave it to

496
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:34.480
someone for their children. They actually the children are benefiting.

497
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.240
I actually have an addition of mede to it. I

498
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:43.240
have a I have a podcast like you similar that.

499
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.440
I took the topics on scholarships and put that in

500
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.160
a scholarship book as a QR code, so people can

501
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.640
now listen to me talk about how to find financial

502
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.519
aid or you know, how to write a letter or

503
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:58.839
a scholarship. So I've done that in all three of

504
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.480
the books, the Studies Skilled Books and the Parents Book

505
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.480
have these QR codes. In them that you can actually

506
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.440
listen to me talk about the topic of time management

507
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.440
or how to organize yourself or how to plan for

508
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.759
your future. So I'm pretty excited about that kind of

509
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:15.000
take it to the next level.

510
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.319
And when they go out there a website, they're able

511
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.279
to be able to get this information, Am I correct?

512
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.319
Yes, they can go to doctor Jones books dot com

513
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:32.039
to take advantage of those as well as some schools

514
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.559
purchase it for hundreds of students and I work with

515
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.000
them to do an invoice or they want to pay

516
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.759
my credit card, I can do that or cash out.

517
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.799
These days, this is a whole other world out here.

518
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.559
Yeah, I was looking at that with the little QR

519
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.640
codes and things. Makes it so so efficient to be

520
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.640
able to go in and look at those videos and

521
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.880
be able to see what to do and give you

522
00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:59.680
you know, because some people they don't want to read

523
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:03.359
through a lot of stuff. They're just used to looking

524
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.440
at reels and videos and stuff like that. So yeah,

525
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.440
this is an opportunity to just go out to that

526
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.680
website and you know, get that information and just download

527
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.279
them step by step by step by step until you've

528
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.640
finished that application and you get that award. Letter in

529
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.640
the mail and you're happy and dancing around the house.

530
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.519
I mean, that's that's the whole goal was to give

531
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.519
you an opportunity to to meet those dreams and to

532
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.200
do those things you know, I know, like financial the scholarships.

533
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.880
I mean, I hear about like my own granddaughter, she's

534
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.480
in school from a basketball scholarship. So you can get

535
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:48.880
them through sports, you can get them through what other skills?

536
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:55.359
And oh yes, yeah, yes, there's there are lots of them.

537
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.119
There's everything to use every day.

538
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:04.400
Places like home Depot, Coca Cola, McDonald's, companies that you're

539
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:10.119
using every day are giving scholarships. Your parents may work

540
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.240
at a place where they have a scholarship. Sometimes parents

541
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.200
forget that they have a scholarship at their job, or

542
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.720
they may have it through a credit union that they

543
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:23.640
belong to their scholarships that are available there. So that's

544
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.880
why it's so important to have a day that you're

545
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.880
focused on it because it can take lots of lots

546
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.079
of searching to find these things, but it's worth the

547
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.920
investment of your time and you might get a few rejections,

548
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.200
but you also are likely to get a few acceptances

549
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.039
of your requests for scholarships, but you have to.

550
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.680
Be in the game. In other words, to win them,

551
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:47.960
you have to have submitted.

552
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:53.480
And I've even seen where a scholarship went to one

553
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.839
student and they decided not to accept the scholarship, and

554
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.440
then the scholarship goes to the next student. You still

555
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.720
have to be in the game to get it, to

556
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.839
make sure that you're applying, meeting the deadline, with everything

557
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.519
to take advantage of it.

558
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.199
Well, yeah, I mean especially you know when you mentioned

559
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:18.440
the cost of getting this education, I would be writing everybody,

560
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.760
whether I was qualified or not. I don't care if

561
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.199
they react. I just want to take a chance. I

562
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.320
would be writing everyone, especially if it's in an area

563
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.400
that I have interests. If it's in you know, healthcare

564
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.320
or you know, the arts or something like that, I

565
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.599
would definitely be right filling it out, you know, And

566
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.159
once you learn how to do it, it just becomes,

567
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.880
you know, almost automatic to how to do the next

568
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:48.280
one and the next one. And another thing. Parents can

569
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:53.199
also get tax credits for the money that they spend

570
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.719
for their children's higher education expenses. And we're all looking

571
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:05.880
for a tax write off, so this is something else

572
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:11.599
that can can be a way of being able to

573
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:15.280
make sure that your student is able to go to

574
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.400
school and go to you know, do the things that

575
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.440
they want to do. And then of course there's always

576
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.840
loans too, but and I'm saying that they're bad, it's

577
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.639
an opportunity, but check.

578
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.119
Your rate.

579
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.719
At the rates, so make sure it's not something that

580
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:36.639
is going to be going up and down and up

581
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.400
and down, and make sure it's something that's very affordable.

582
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:46.880
Can you can you still pay that loan in bad times? Yeah,

583
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.079
you're doing you can do it great, But you never

584
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.679
know what life has to bring and what happens if

585
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.559
someone in the family, you know, becomes unemployed or becomes ill,

586
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.880
will you still be able to you know, make those payments.

587
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.519
So you know, I guess maybe at a last resort

588
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.639
that would be an option, but I would definitely be

589
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.440
looking at all the various ways that are available. And

590
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.880
if you start early, my goodness, you'll find all the opportunities.

591
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:24.000
Like I said, like your state there in Pennsylvania, I

592
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.599
know most of the other states because even the small

593
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.800
smaller states that I've worked in, and they have all

594
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.199
of these different opportunities. So it's a matter of just

595
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.719
doing some research and I know, everybody's got some kind

596
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.280
of AI on their phone. Put your AI to work,

597
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:46.320
find out where all these scholarships and things are, and

598
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.480
then get busy.

599
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:54.960
And I like to add to that, there are associations.

600
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.920
So I'm the advisor for the National Society of Black Engineers.

601
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.360
It's composed of college students and pre college students. So

602
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.840
middle school, elementary school, middle school, high school are part

603
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.840
of this big organization that's called the National Society Black Engineers.

604
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.119
They offer scholarships to students not only when they are

605
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.519
applying to college, but when they're in college, you can

606
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.280
still apply for more scholarships. So there's a society of

607
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:26.400
Women Engineers. There's a society where it span professional engineers.

608
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:31.199
There's engineering societies mechanical, electrical, chemical, but I'm imagining that

609
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.440
in the same bin that they have those. There's a

610
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:38.480
National Nursing Association, there's a National Black Nursing Association. There's

611
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:45.320
sororities and fraternities that are focused on different aspects of professions.

612
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.280
So those are other places that you can apply for funding.

613
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.920
As I've said earlier, make sure you know the deadlines

614
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.880
and make sure two three weeks ahead of time you're

615
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:01.480
submitting your application, because sometimes the agency that you've for

616
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.559
organization that you submitted this scholarship to will say oh,

617
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.519
we're missing one element. But if you submitted it at

618
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.840
the deadline, then they're not going to call you. There,

619
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.000
I say, you just missed the opportunity because you didn't

620
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.559
do everything you need to do. So get in and

621
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.880
ahead of time, so they need to tell you, oh,

622
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.760
you need this additional essay. They have time to require

623
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.679
and request the additional essay or whatever it might be

624
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:26.760
that's necessary.

625
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.199
Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking to myself, I would definitely have

626
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:35.119
it in there at least sixty days before the deadline,

627
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:40.519
just in case they now do ask for some additional

628
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.920
information and you've got to do some research or whatever

629
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.159
you like. You said, the deadline's important because if you

630
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:52.599
miss it, I'm sorry, they're not going to They're not

631
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.039
going to open that window and say, Okay, we'll give

632
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.960
you a chance. No when it's closed close, And it's

633
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.519
because they have rules and regulations they have to follow.

634
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.000
It's not personal. They just have to follow the rules.

635
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.840
And if they say the deadline, then it has to

636
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.199
be in there by that deadline because it needs to

637
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.840
be a competitive thing where everybody applied at the same

638
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:20.760
time and then they begin making their decisions. People straggling in.

639
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:25.920
Then you've taken away from what they consider the fairness

640
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:31.119
of the allotment of the funds. So, yeah, you just

641
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.760
got to follow some of the rules. Just follow the rules.

642
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.360
Make sure the lines are complete, and make sure the

643
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:41.360
lines are complete, and you can't use a spell checker

644
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.800
so that it does look as if you know, you

645
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.760
are ready to go to college and you are completing

646
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.000
this so you know, to the best of your ability,

647
00:39:53.280 --> 00:40:00.960
and you were mentioning yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, no,

648
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:03.679
back to that, It is very important. I know when

649
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.679
I've been in management and I've had to read you know,

650
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.400
information from someone that's applying for something or or you

651
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.079
know reports that I've expected or something like that, and

652
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.599
you know there's misspelled words, there's you know, the sentences

653
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.000
aren't connecting correctly and different things like that. Well, that

654
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:30.679
just really just turns off even completely reading the rest

655
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.320
of this information, because if I mean, it causes someone

656
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:39.840
to evaluate you without really knowing who you are. They're

657
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.800
evaluating you based on what you have presented to them,

658
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:48.320
and what you presented represents who you are, So you

659
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.079
need to put your best foot forward and make sure

660
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:56.360
your presentation really does, you know, reflect who you are,

661
00:40:56.559 --> 00:41:01.039
and you are a person that's wanting to achieve excellence.

662
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.639
So give them excellence to look at and then they'll

663
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.840
they'll know you're serious. But not paying attention to something

664
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.079
as simple as spelling when there's all kinds of tools

665
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:18.000
out there that can check and make sure that it's

666
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:21.880
correct and you won't even check it, then that that

667
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:28.159
does not, you know, appear very kindly for you. So

668
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.320
that's that's that's really important. So when you need to

669
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:33.480
have it in all time, you need to make sure

670
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.320
that it's accurate. You need to make sure that there

671
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.360
aren't spelling and sentence scares.

672
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.719
That's really important, and it also sets a president for

673
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.800
how you conduct yourself when you're in college that you're

674
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.840
paying attention to detail, that you're spell checking things that

675
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.400
you're submitting, and that plays out further when you get

676
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.400
into corporate America that there is an expectation that you

677
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:01.480
can communicate effectively in writing or and speaking, that you

678
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.480
have that ability. So all these are training grounds for

679
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:08.880
the future that you're expecting to see yourself in and

680
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:13.400
when you submit that essay because you've actually thought about

681
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.480
what you're about to write, it sounds so much better.

682
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.800
It sounds so much enticing to the person that's reading

683
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.360
it because it looks like and it feels like you

684
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.960
took time to think about what you wanted to say.

685
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.320
I had a couple more questions. I wanted to know,

686
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:37.320
how are the housing costs covered? If if it's not

687
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.159
including your scholarship, are there ways that they can get work,

688
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:46.079
you know, while they're only you know, at the university,

689
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.880
or you know, what kinds of things can they find

690
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:51.800
just to cover their housing costs.

691
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.440
Well, there's tuition room on board, so the overall financial

692
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.880
aid package will include money towards that, and then there'll

693
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:02.400
be amount of balance that may be left over. If

694
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:03.719
it's covered, it's covered.

695
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.679
What some students have done is they have worked when

696
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.639
they get in their sophomore junior year, they have worked

697
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.400
as resident assistants in the residential halls, and then that

698
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.880
way their housing is covered because they've been working as

699
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.519
a resident assistant. So I've seen a number of students

700
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.599
take advantage of that and save you know, thirty forty

701
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:30.320
thousand dollars because they actually worked while they were at

702
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.840
their college. So that's you know, and then like you said,

703
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.239
with loans, if you have an outstanding balance, you know,

704
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:40.840
you could get a loan or maybe if you have

705
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.159
enough of a grant, it'll cover that. There used to

706
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.000
be a time years ago where a lot of students

707
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:52.320
got refunds because they had an over amount of financially,

708
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:54.920
but not as many of those are going out as

709
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.840
there have been in the past because the cost of

710
00:43:57.880 --> 00:43:59.599
college alone is so expensive.

711
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:01.000
Mm hmmm.

712
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:06.559
I do remember. There was always it wasn't it wasn't

713
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.519
small money either. There was always money oh left over

714
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:13.400
on my grant. It was like, oh wow, I got

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a few thousand dollars here.

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In school. Yes, so yeah, I know.

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Now they're probably a lot tighter, but back then, you know,

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there were there were a lot of, you know, wonderful

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perks that were offered for you going to school. What

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other recommendations do you have to assist students that need

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financial assistance?

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Well, believe it or not, some students have done go

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fund me where they just had created GoFundMe and send

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it out to all their uncles, aunts, cousins, church members

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to help them fund their college experience and sometimes that's

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been beneficial in terms of, hey, one of your church

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member is so excited about you being in college, they'll

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give you five hundred dollars every year that you're in

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college and every year that you're succeeding in college. So

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it's kind of like putting it out there for people

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to make an investment in you. My daughter did it

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in a really creative way that she was doing her

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dissertation for her doctorate degree, and she created an account

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with all the books that she needed and so she

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sent it out to everybody, kind of almost like, what

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do you call it? We have that event before the.

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Baby's born where you actually give out gifts, you get gifts.

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They yeah, so baby shower.

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Now they have a system where you can list all

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the different gifts that you want and to send it

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out to people and they just pay the thing that

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they can afford. So she did the same thing with books,

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the books that she needed funding for and then they

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could just go on and the book was automatic shipped

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to her.

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So it was wonderful we see save hundreds of hundreds

747
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and hundreds of dollars because she really needed books and

748
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that was a creative way to get that done.

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Yeah, books were really expensive even back in my days,

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so I know they're probably you know, pretty expensive now,

751
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and just covering those books and lab costs and different

752
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.719
things like that, you know, all of that, you know

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needs to be taken into consideration. And but you know,

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just listening to you, it's like, there's no reason for

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anyone wanting to go to college not being able to

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go to college, because there's just so many different options

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and opportunities to be able to get funding. It just

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takes some grit and some time and going after it.

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Like I said, don't leave money on the table, do

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something about it and make it happen for yourself. Definitely, definitely.

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Here's another tip that I give out, and that is,

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for example, the school District of Philadelphia has the section

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of its website for scholarships, but all those scholarships aren't

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specifically for Philadelphia students. There are other kinds of scholarships,

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So go on that website, go on other school district's

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websites to see what scholarships they have information about, or

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what resources that they have. A lot of the states

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themselves have a section of the state website where the

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part of education offers scholarship information, so you can go

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there as well all the colleges that you're applying to.

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You may have four or five colleges that you're applying to,

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go through the scholarship portion of their website because there

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may be other scholarships that aren't specifically targeted to that

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university that you can apply to.

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M Yeah, I mean, I know, I hear people that

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are you know, born in Ohio, but they end up

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going to Pennsylvania and different things like that. And you know,

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are they recruiting these students, you know, to come to

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their school or or you just decide I'm going to

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go to that school because I want to live in Pennsylvania.

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That's a good question, A good question. So we have

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alumni associations all over the country at Villanova, and we

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will have different events where the alumni will recognize will

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will be the person that represents us at the various

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high schools in the local area at the various college fairs.

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They will help us with that. And then we have

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admission staff that do the same mission staff that go

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all over the country recruiting students.

789
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I would say, because.

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We're filled up right outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, A large

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portion of our schools that or students that apply to

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Villanova are from Virginia through Connecticut because they know our school.

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But we do have students from as far as Hawaii

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and Africa and South America. We have students from all

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over the world that come to Villanova from China, from India,

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so we have representation from all over the world. We

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keep our doors open to anybody that wants to apply.

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But yes, we are doing a lot of outreach to

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make this happen. It's not just happening by advertisement. We

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have to physically send people to certain places to the

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recruitment effort.

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Okay, So in other words, when you hear of a

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college fair, you need to rush there and make sure

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you get all the information that is available to you.

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Doctor Jones, thank you so much for being here today

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and sharing this information with the parents of those students

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who want to attend school. And thank you for listening today.

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And you can contact doctor Jones at his website and

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get even more information. And as usual I'd like to say,

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do what you can to help your child meet their

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dream and whatever you do, stay informed. I want to

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thank you for joining us on a sharp outlook we

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have been informed and energized to take the next steps.

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